Republicans say the darndest things! Or rather, the DUMBEST things

[Asher]

He probably also blames all of the men/women who have sex with people who knowingly have HIV and don't disclose it.

It's just Christian love he shows everyone.

[chequita guevara]

Those quotes in your sig are pretty creepy. I can easily understand how MikeH mistook my thread on the Ben Roethlisberger rape allegations for Ben.

Especially if you knew things I knew.

[KrazyHorse]

That's sorta creepy.

[Asher]

[Ben Kenobi]

I especially like the "kid gloves" part. What's he supposed to do, go to Texas and punch the guy while he lies in the hospital?

It's an impression and an opinion. You are quite right to take issue with it, but I expect it to become more apparent over the next while.

If he's tried in a military court and hanged within the month, I will rescind the comment and apologise to Obama.

[Ben Kenobi]

What's Ben's view on rape again? Particular rape committed by someone with HIV. Is it consensual? (i.e asking for it)

Do you have reason to believe that a significant proportion of HIV transmission has anything to do with rape? Yes, of course rape is non-consensual. I don't know why folks would think otherwise. I think castration would be effective punishment for rapists.

[Ben Kenobi]

He probably also blames all of the men/women who have sex with people who knowingly have HIV and don't disclose it.

Which amounts to a death penalty to everyone that the person sleeps with. Perhaps you might want to ask me first what I believe before making inflammatory comments.

Two thoughts on this.

1. Life imprisonment without possibility of parole.
2. Publication of HIV positive status, registry with the state and tattooed HIV status in an unobtrusive, but intimate location.

Your choice. Pick one of two.

[Asher]

Which amounts to a death penalty to everyone that the person sleeps with. Perhaps you might want to ask me first what I believe before making inflammatory comments.

Ben, you gigantic ****ing douchebag.

This was your comment:

you only catch HIV through actions which you consent.

Rape victims and HIV babies are just two examples of people that do not consent.

Your comment was ridiculously stupid and ignorant, and now you are trying to portray people who read your comment as you said it (which is unambiguous) as those making the inflammatory comments. Go **** yourself.

[Ben Kenobi]

Rape victims and HIV babies are just two examples of people that do not consent.

I thought that much was obvious and didn't require further comment, especially considering that HIV babies were included in the topic. The point being that HIV is not a communicable disease, not in the same way as say influenza. We don't, for example, quarantine HIV people because of this feature.

Now, if you are seriously arguing that the vast majority of HIV transmission is not consensual, than the only response to such is that quarantine would be an effective way to discourage HIV transmission. Somehow I doubt you advance this argument.

If people require me to spell out all the modes of HIV transmission, I will be more than happy to discuss the outliers.

Your comment was ridiculously stupid and ignorant, and now you are trying to portray people who read your comment as you said it (which is unambiguous) as those making the inflammatory comments. Go **** yourself.

You know, Asher. I've been polite. I've explained my position on the outliers that you've managed to bring up without making assumptions or assertions about you. I don't see why it's at all difficult for you to do the same.

[Asher]

I thought that much was obvious and didn't require further comment

Maybe you should've taken more liberal arts courses, which apparently teach you how to make coherent and clear arguments. You make universal qualifiers then squirm when people find exceptions.

You know, Asher. I've been polite. I've explained my position on the outliers that you've managed to bring up without making assumptions or assertions about you. I don't see why it's at all difficult for you to do the same.

You're a disingenuous douchebag who never does anything but lie, mislead, and be bigoted. Why is it difficult for me to be polite to someone like that?

You're absolutely scum of the earth, Ben. Being polite has **** all to do with it. There's more to life than superficial appearances. At your heart, you are a worthless piece of **** and I'll continue to treat you as such for as long as you are anywhere near me, virtually or otherwise.

[Ben Kenobi]

Maybe you should've taken more liberal arts courses, which apparently teach you how to make coherent and clear arguments. You make universal qualifiers then squirm when people find exceptions.

The argument is clearly articulated, because you've brought up the outliers one could well expect to see levelled. If the argument were not clearly articulated, we'd not be discussing these outliers.

You're a disingenuous douchebag who never does anything but lie, mislead, and be bigoted. Why is it difficult for me to be polite to someone like that?

You see, there's a difference. I don't believe you are bigotted for merely expressing opinions contrary to my own. I believe you are wrong.

You're absolutely scum of the earth, Ben. Being polite has **** all to do with it. There's more to life than superficial appearances. At your heart, you are a worthless piece of **** and I'll continue to treat you as such for as long as you are anywhere near me, virtually or otherwise.

Perhaps you'd be more effective if you attempted to ascertain a rationale behind contrary arguments other than the crutch of 'bigotry'.

[Asher]

The argument is clearly articulated

Yes, it was. You said the only way to get HIV is by something you consent to.

You see, there's a difference. I don't believe you are bigotted for merely expressing opinions contrary to my own. I believe you are wrong.

You are not bigoted for expressing contrary ideas. This is again an example of you being a lying sack of **** which resorts to dishonesty.

You are a bigot because of beliefs you have which refuse the rights to others just because they are different from you and your own personal beliefs are contrary to their existence.

Perhaps you'd be more effective if you attempted to ascertain a rationale behind contrary arguments other than the crutch of 'bigotry'.

It's not just bigotry, Ben. The main problem is you are one of the dumbest people I've ever met. I mean that very sincerely. You are so stupid, in fact, that you have no idea how stupid you are. You also just happen to be a bigot.

[Wezil]

You're absolutely scum of the earth, Ben. Being polite has **** all to do with it. There's more to life than superficial appearances. At your heart, you are a worthless piece of **** and I'll continue to treat you as such for as long as you are anywhere near me, virtually or otherwise.

That's worth repeating.

[Ben Kenobi]

You are a bigot because of beliefs you have which refuse the rights to others just because they are different from you and your own personal beliefs are contrary to their existence.

In this thread, which individuals have I referred to?

It's not just bigotry, Ben. The main problem is you are one of the dumbest people I've ever met. I mean that very sincerely. You are so stupid, in fact, that you have no idea how stupid you are. You also just happen to be a bigot.

I'd rather be considered foolish by those who consider themselves wise. I'd be quite concerned frankly if Poly regarded me as wise.

[Boris Godunov]

If he's tried in a military court and hanged within the month, I will rescind the comment and apologise to Obama.

You're perhaps the ****tiest Catholic I've ever seen. Except maybe William Donohue.