Rush and the Rams

[Guynemer]

So he owes up to the McNabb comment now, after the fact, after its already bitten him on the ass? What a great man.

[Drake Tungsten]

No one's calling him a great man. The fact that he's not doesn't give you and others carte blanche to lie about him and his statements, however.

[Guynemer]

So wait.

If a kid busts a window, and everyone sees him bust a window, but he denies and denies and denies that he busted the window, and then he gets punished for busting the window, we're supposed to have sympathy for him once he finally admits to busting the window?

[Drake Tungsten]

What are you talking about? I'm saying that if the media accuses the kid of raping someone (or Limbaugh of supporting slavery and the assassination of MLK) with no evidence, a reasonable person would think the media was out of bounds and expect a retraction/apology.

[Guynemer]

No evidence?

Jesus Christ, Drake. What would constitute evidence for you, short of a Klan hood?



Yes. For quotes that were misattributed, he should receive an apology. But he should not receive any sort of pity party for not being able to buy the Rams. His entire shtick is about being as controversial as he can be, and he has already used the NFL towards that end.

[Drake Tungsten]

No evidence?

Jesus Christ, Drake. What would constitute evidence for you, short of a Klan hood?

sigh...

You really don't know what you're talking about, dude.

Anyway, I'm off to a wedding that my dumbass cousin decided to have during the Nebraska-Texas Tech game.

[Ben Kenobi]

The fact that Rush can not own up to any mistakes, at all. Not to the drug use, not to the McNabb comment, not to the Obama comment, not to the Nazi comments, etc. etc. He can do no wrong in his own mind.

Why on earth should he apologise for saying the same thing everyone else is thinking? I mean seriously. McNabb is a good QB, but he is massively overhyped because he's the 'great black hope'. Always has been, and always will be.

I didn't see Rush saying that he thought McNabb was a bad QB. That's why this is so overblown!

It sure as **** isn't helping his cause. He gets an NFL job, and on Day One he makes a completely idiotic comment designed to shout, "Look at me, the Attention Whore! I'm so controversial!" I'd say that the hate has been rather well-earned. I can understand why players would not want to be on his payroll.

Yeah, and Olberman on SNF is 'apolitical'. Showing Obama before MNF? Yeah, seems Rush would be some welcome balance to this bull****. The whole idea that 'some people aren't meant to own teams', is anti-american. What ever happened to the land of opportunity!

[Guynemer]

"Barack the Magic Negro."


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"You put your kids on a school bus you expect safety but in Obama's America the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering 'yeah, right on, right on, right on.' Of course everybody said the white kid deserved it he was born a racist, he's white.


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LIMBAUGH: Yeah. This is -- you're not going to believe this, but it's very simple. And the sooner you believe it, and the sooner you let this truth permeate the boundaries you have that tell you this is just simply not possible, the better you will understand Democrats in everything. You are right. They want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur.

CALLER: Right.

LIMBAUGH: There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur?

CALLER: Uh, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they're in trouble.

CALLER: Yes. Yes. The black population.

LIMBAUGH: Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela -- who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing


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"Obama's entire economic program is reparations"


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"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." When explaining why Paul Hackett dropped out of the Democrat race for Ohio Senate. Both Hackett and Brown are white.


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Look, Drake. One of two things is true. Either

A) Rush is a racist, or

B) Rush is not a racist, but says racist things to increase his audience and make more money.


I honestly don't know which is worse.

[Ben Kenobi]

"Barack the Magic Negro."

A term coined by a black man who doesn't like Obama.

"You put your kids on a school bus you expect safety but in Obama's America the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering 'yeah, right on, right on, right on.' Of course everybody said the white kid deserved it he was born a racist, he's white.

This incident actually happened in 'Obama's post-racial America', just as Rush describes it. And yes, folks said it was justified because it was a white boy.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah. This is -- you're not going to believe this, but it's very simple. And the sooner you believe it, and the sooner you let this truth permeate the boundaries you have that tell you this is just simply not possible, the better you will understand Democrats in everything. You are right. They want to get us out of Iraq, but they can't wait to get us into Darfur.

Yes, and Obama's just done this btw. He's intervening in the Sudan. What's racist about this? It's the truth. 'Non-interventionist, peacenik Obama is still in the War in Afghanistan and has increased troop counts.

LIMBAUGH: There are two reasons. What color is the skin of the people in Darfur?

Also true. Limbaugh is asserting that Obama gives a **** about these people because he's black. I disagree with Limbaugh's contention (I think he cares because they are Muslims, ie the right kind of black people), but I digress. How is it racist for Limbaugh to accuse Obama of racism? Wouldn't that make you a racist for accusing Limbaugh of the same? Please.

LIMBAUGH: It's black. And who do the Democrats really need to keep voting for them? If they lose a significant percentage of this voting bloc, they're in trouble.

Black people voted something like 97 percent for Obama. A third of these folks is 3 percent, which is Obama's margin of victory. Point for Limbaugh.

LIMBAUGH: Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela -- who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing

All true. Mandela was bankrolled by communists, and won a peace prize for giving up on violence. Not for preventing someone else for being violent, but for stopping himself from being violent.

"Obama's entire economic program is reparations"

Did you miss the point where he's come out for reparations? It's all about wealth redistribution. Can't say I disagree with Limbaugh, but it's not a racist statement.

"And don't forget, Sherrod Brown is black. There's a racial component here, too." When explaining why Paul Hackett dropped out of the Democrat race for Ohio Senate. Both Hackett and Brown are white.

Did he actually say this? What's the date of the quote.

I honestly don't know which is worse.

Accusing your opposition of being racist does not make you a racist. Are you a racist Guy? I didn't think so.

[dannubis]

It's true. There's someone in this very thread wishing death on the man. Meanwhile, the media has been spreading false quotes to slander Limbaugh in such a completely brazen fashion that it can only be explained by a deep-seated hatred for the man.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

The guy is a piece of ****. You like **** Drake?

[DaShi]

I thought that was understood.

[DinoDoc]

Wasn't McNabb overrated when Rush made those comments?

[Guynemer]

Five-time Pro Bowler, 2004 NFC Offensive Player of the Year, four division titles, five trips to the NFC Championship, and one trip to the Super Bowl.

So, no.

[DinoDoc]

So, no.

2. What distinction does Donovan McNabb deserve these days?

Answer: Would you believe the league's most overrated player label? A little harsh for a two-week slump, right? Maybe, but it's also an indication of how lost the fifth-year Philadelphia quarterback has been this season.

The truth is, there have always been a few Sundays each season when McNabb looked downright ordinary. When his passes didn't go where he wanted them to go, his ability to work outside the pocket didn't save the day, and his star power looked a bit overstated. But you could chalk those up to him still being a relatively young quarterback developmentally, not having enough offensive weapons around him, or just his tendency to misplace his A game from time to time.

But McNabb's troubles this year are a little harder to overlook. Yes, his last three meaningful games were against Tampa Bay (twice) and New England, teams rich in defensive talent. But that doesn't come close to absolving McNabb, who has been consistently singled out as one of the game's most complete quarterbacks, with a game that outshone any of his fellow 1999 first-round quarterbacks.

But have you seen McNabb lately? He looks hesitant. He lacks accuracy and confidence. And it appears he's not seeing the field with any clarity. He's often dealing with a strong pass rush, but even when he isn't, he's not capitalizing on the opportunities that he has. McNabb these days looks almost as stiff as the guy playing Honest Abe next to him in all those Lincoln Financial commercials.

Try these humbling statistics on for size: In his first two games, McNabb is 37 of 82 (45.1 percent), for 334 yards, three interceptions, three fumbles, 10 sacks, zero touchdowns and a 41.4 passer rating. His long gain throwing the ball is 24 yards, and you can't even find him on the NFL or NFC passer ratings chart, his numbers are so low.

He has gained a team-high 108 yards on 11 rushes, and some believe that he has shied away from that part of his game to his own detriment, in a determined effort to prove he can be a more traditional pocket passer.

Perhaps returning to an outside-the-pocket mentality will jumpstart McNabb's confidence, and open up more big-play opportunities on the run. Something needs to change. The 0-2 Eagles have scored just one touchdown in two games, and their 10 total points are their second-lowest two-game production to start the season in franchise history -- topped, if that's the right word, only by 1985's club, which scored six points in starting 0-2.

With a Week 3 bye to get himself in shape, McNabb might still pull things together and return to the play-making form that we're accustomed to. Though he had a strong showing in his comeback game against Atlanta in the divisional playoffs, we haven't really seen the real McNabb since before his broken ankle in Week 11 last season.

At this point, the Eagles' season depends on No. 5 re-finding his game.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/football/nfl/09/16/burning.questions/index.html

Rush Limbaugh Was Right
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If Limbaugh were a more astute analyst, he would have been even harsher and said, "Donovan McNabb is barely a mediocre quarterback." But other than that, Limbaugh pretty much spoke the truth. Limbaugh lost his job for saying in public what many football fans and analysts have been saying privately for the past couple of seasons.

http://www.slate.com/id/2089193/

[Kitschum]

I saw this story on another forum and I was like uhhh