Obama Wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

[Imran Siddiqui]

KH is a dumb**** who thinks Obama is better than Hillary.

QFT

[Zkribbler]

None of this has actually happened. All Obama has done is dressed up the always harsh and self interested world of international diplomacy with some cheap walmart widow dressing, the positions of no one has changed in any meaningful sense. The status quo reigns. Thats what happens when your foreign policy consists of infomercials.

Patty, get a grip on reality.

Has the predicted New Cold War with Russian been averted or not?
Has North Korea agreed to return to the 6-Party Talks or not?
Has Iran agreed to permit nuclear inspectors in or not?

Would any of these things happened with Bush at the helm?

[Zkribbler]

'Tis amusing to see those folks who gave us President Bush arguing over whether Obama is a worse President than Hillary would be. These guys wouldn't know a good President if he won the Nobel Peace Prize.

[SlowwHand]

Nothing has changed with Russia.
You're counting on NK and/or Iran being more honest now than with Bush? That's exactly what they hope.

[Zkribbler]

Honest?? Those yahoos??? I don't think so.
I just think we have a better chance to achieve peace by talking to them than by not talking to them.

[Drake Tungsten]

'Tis amusing to see those folks who gave us President Bush arguing over whether Obama is a worse President than Hillary would be.

I didn't vote for Bush or Obama. I'm not a ****ing moron.

[SlowwHand]

It doesn't mean you're brilliant.

[KrazyHorse]

You really have a hate on for this guy.

Of course I do. He's an empty suit and a bad president.

Not even close.

I thank god you can't vote here...

I am far more ignorant than the average American voter, it is true

[KrazyHorse]

QFT

All right, you secretmuslimterrorist

[Straybow]

[Q=MOBIUS;5689053]The Nobel Peace Prize is dead in my eyes. But then it has been when I realised they awarded the damned thing to Menachem Begin...[/Q] Yeah, good heavens, you wouldn't actually give the peace prize to a man who actually made peace! Outrageous!

[Straybow]

[Q=Zkribbler;5688839]Remember the op-ed pieces several months back about the resurrection of the Cold War? Well, Obama gave in to the Russians instead of using strength as a bargaining tools for real diplomacy. The Committee cited this as a "success in lessening East-West tensions," whereas it is really moving all the tension back to the Czechs and Poles who actually have to live in the shadow of the Russian bullies. But then the Nobel isn't really about peace, just about appearances.

Remember when a certain U.S. President named Iraq, Iran and North Korea as being part of a [mythological] Axis of Evil, and then invaded Iraq, unquestionably ending any WMD programs Saddam was toying with? Well, meanwhile Iran and North Korea continued to build nuclear weapons programs because the rest of the world wouldn't back their "diplomacy" with strength.

With Obama's emphasis on negotiation over saber-rattling, Iran has now agreed to permit inspections which will do nothing to deter the program. But it looks good in the headlines. North Korea has agreed to return to the negotiating table, a ploy to gain more time to develop weapons while looking good in the headlines. As long as it looks good, that's enough for the Nobel Committee.

One of the areas now included in the Peace Prize is fighting climate change. Obama (or Pelosi, really) included a tiny percentage of the funds in the pork package for developing token renewable energy sources that will have negligible effect on the climate. It's a very small change from the "you guys have got to be kidding me" reality check that the last administration gave to all the climate wackos, but as long as lip service is paid to their holy cause, that's good enough for the Nobel Committee.

And there's the redeployment of troops out of Iraq (which is possible because the surge worked even better than the Repubs had hoped). But the Committee can ignore the positive results of waging war against terrorists and pretend that the Iraqis stabilized their country by inhaling the fumes of Obama's campaign speeches.

There's the returning of the role of world cop to the capricious whims of the U.N., rather than in the capricious whims of a single Texan. They like that better, even though the results will probably be worse over then next decade.

Reining in the bull-in-the-china-shop ass-kicking of criminal dictators of the world's largest military power and replacing its saber-rattling with dipomatic offers to fellate those dictators obviously counted for something.[/Q]
Fixed.

[Drake Tungsten]

I am far more ignorant than the average American voter, it is true

Based on the results in the primaries and the general election, you seem to be exactly as ignorant as the average American voter.

[notyoueither]

'Tis amusing to see those folks who gave us President Bush arguing over whether Obama is a worse President than Hillary would be.

I didn't vote for Bush or Obama. I'm not a ****ing moron.

I'm finding it difficult to believe that you voted for either Gore or Kerry.

Is it no vote, or for the wing-nuts?

[Drake Tungsten]

I'm finding it difficult to believe that you voted for either Gore or Kerry.

Of course I didn't. I'm not a moron.

[Whoha]

He wrote in Drake.