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  • #31
    Rasmussen had Obama at about 45 percent approval among likely voters. Bush Jr. was well on the positive side until about 3 years ago.
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    • #32
      My favorite part of Fox coverage was their claim that the tea party crowd was in 7 figures, going so far as to attribute that claim to ABC News, which said no such thing. (A lie so blatant and provable, even Fox had to retract it.)

      Nate Silver and the DC pollce both put DC attendance at 70K-100K. Good enough for me.
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      • #33
        That's right: Congress refuses to keep commerce regular when the commercial activity is the sale of insurance, but claims it can regulate the removal of a person's appendix because that constitutes interstate commerce.
        Last week, I asked South Carolina Congressman James Clyburn, the third-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives, where in the Constitution it authorizes the federal government to regulate the delivery of health care. He replied: "There's nothing in the Constitution that says that the federal government has anything to do with most of the stuff we do." Then he shot back: "How about [you] show me where in the Constitution it prohibits the federal government from doing this?"

        Rep. Clyburn, like many of his colleagues, seems to have conveniently forgotten that the federal government has only specific enumerated powers. He also seems to have overlooked the Ninth and 10th Amendments, which limit Congress's powers only to those granted in the Constitution.
        why do I have trouble believing people in Congress really believe in God. They put their hand on the Bible and swear in God's name to uphold the Constitution and they admit to ignoring it at their leisure.

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        • #34
          Who cares if they believe in God or not anyway, and why is it relevant?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
            why do I have trouble believing people in Congress really believe in God. They put their hand on the Bible and swear in God's name to uphold the Constitution and they admit to ignoring it at their leisure.
            The also don't appear to believe in the "Necessary and Proper" Clause.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by MikeH View Post
              Who cares if they believe in God or not anyway, and why is it relevant?
              True christians shouldn't swear 'In God's Name'.

              Matthiew 5:34-37 specifically says

              But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.

              According to Matthiew, any oath in something's name come from the evil one.

              So certainly those taking an oath and sealing it by anything are satanists!
              The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.

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              • #37
                We already established they were congressmen.
                Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                We've got both kinds

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
                  The also don't appear to believe in the "Necessary and Proper" Clause.
                  Given the fact that it doesn't help Clyburn's case, he had enough respect for the document not to mention it.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Zkribbler View Post
                    The also don't appear to believe in the "Necessary and Proper" Clause.
                    on the contrary, they've expanded their powers under what they've decided is necessary and proper, just like the general welfare clause. We dont need the Constitution, Congress can do whatever it decides is necessary and proper for the general welfare. That "interpretation" is BS

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                    • #40


                      Fox News producer caught rallying the 9/12 protest crowd:
                      Fox News Producer Caught Rallying 9/12 Protest Crowd In Behind-The-Scenes

                      A Fox News Channel producer has been caught in a behind-the-scenes video rallying the crowd during last weekend's 9/12 protest in Washington.
                      The Huffington Post has confirmed that the woman in the below video — seen raising her arms to rally the crowd behind Griff Jenkins, who was reporting from the scene for Fox News — is Fox News producer Heidi Noonan.
                      "The employee is a young, relatively inexperienced associate producer who realizes she made a mistake and has been disciplined," Bryan Boughton, Fox News Channel Washington Bureau Chief told the Huffington Post.
                      The video shows the producer on her cell phone as she urges the crowd behind Jenkins to cheer louder. An "I'm A Foxaholic" poster appears nearby.
                      The 9/12 movement has been championed by Glenn Beck, and is designed to "bring us all back to the place we were on September 12, 2001" when "we were united as Americans, standing together to protect the values and principles of the greatest nation ever created."
                      Fox News heavily promoted the protest event, and took out an ad in newspapers Friday asking how other news networks could "miss [the] story," only to have competitors hit back with proof that they covered the protest extensively.
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                      • #41
                        At what point should the FCC step in and wrangle this Fox News beast? They claim to be "fair and balanced" when we all know it's not the case. They deliberately release misinformation to the public to advance their agenda.

                        That should be permissible, but not under the guise of being a "fair and balanced" news source. It's pure propaganda.
                        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                        • #42
                          Do you really think Beck's campaign to get Van Jones fired as green jobs czar was about politics and policies?

                          No. It was personal.

                          Fun fact: Van Jones is co-founder of Color of Change, the main group that organized and promoted the ongoing advertiser boycott of Beck's show. Not that Jones is any sort of paragon of virtue, but still, this is pretty transparent.
                          Last edited by -Jrabbit; September 22, 2009, 11:26. Reason: typo
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                          • #43
                            Holy ****, I hadn't heard that.

                            Hilarious.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Asher View Post
                              At what point should the FCC step in and wrangle this Fox News beast? They claim to be "fair and balanced" when we all know it's not the case. They deliberately release misinformation to the public to advance their agenda.

                              That should be permissible, but not under the guise of being a "fair and balanced" news source. It's pure propaganda.
                              Thankfully, we have free speech.

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                              • #45
                                No, you don't. Boobies and curse words = free speech.

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