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    WINNIPEG - Aboriginal leaders in Manitoba say they are horrified and want an explanation as to why some of the reserves hardest hit by swine flu in the spring have just received dozens of body bags from Health Canada.

    Chiefs say the body bags - which were in a shipment of hand sanitizers and face masks - were sent to a cluster of remote northern reserves where dozens of patients were airlifted to hospital in the spring.

    "If this is preparedness, they're sending the wrong message to our communities. Who would do such a thing?" Grand Chief David Harper, who represents Manitoba's northern First Nations, asked Wednesday.

    "It's like sending body bags to Afghanistan for our soldiers. We've been asking for proper health institutions, proper health equipment. Instead, what do we get? Body bags. That's totally unacceptable."

    Health Minister Leona Aglukkaq said at a flu briefing in Ottawa that she was disturbed when she heard body bags had been sent to some aboriginal communities.

    "I have ordered my deputy minister to conduct a thorough and immediate inquiry into the situation and I will continue to work with First Nations, provinces and territories to ensure all Canadians are informed and protected against H1N1," she said.

    Aglukkaq said she found out about the body bags during a conference call with aboriginal leaders, but couldn't explain why they have been sent to some reserves. "Once I have more information I can speak to that," she said. "But right now I'm asking the same questions you're asking me."

    David Butler-Jones, Canada's chief public health officer, said the body bags were unnecessary. "As the minister said, it's being looked into," he said. "But it's a totally unnecessary thing."

    The shipment of at least 50 bags, which some interpreted as a grim prediction from the government, further strains relations between First Nations and Ottawa.

    This spring some chiefs demanded an apology after Health Canada delayed a shipment of hand sanitizer to some hard-hit reserves because the sanitizers contained alcohol.

    Several grand chiefs have also criticized the federal government for not doing enough to prepare First Nations for an expected resurgence of swine flu this fall, leaving communities to raise funds for basic supplies.

    A disproportionate number of aboriginals in northern Manitoba communities ended up on ventilators in intensive care when the flu first hit last spring. Many patients were airlifted from some northern First Nations reserves where there are fewer than 10,000 residents.

    First Nations are already feeling uneasy about the second coming of H1N1 without receiving body bags from Health Canada, Harper said.

    "There is something strange going on here," he said. "All along, we've said Canada's not prepared. They're still not prepared. That's the wrong signal that they're sending."

    Chief David McDougall, of St. Theresa Point First Nation, said his community's nursing station received a shipment of supplies but he hasn't seen any body bags yet. He said the ones sent to his neighbouring reserves are an "ominous sign that the government is predicting a grim outcome."

    While he said they need to accept that some people might succumb to the flu this fall, sending body bags before the leaves have turned is a bit premature.

    "A lot of other things should be done prior to shipping these - vaccinations or some sort of concrete plan," McDougall said. "To just out of the blue send a bunch of body bags, I was flabbergasted."

    Political critics jumped on the news, slamming the federal government for its lack of flu preparedness.

    Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett said the situation in northern Manitoba reserves is dire. The government is telling communities that people will die rather focusing on flu prevention, she said.

    "It's just shocking," Bennett said. "We've been asking for flu kits, we've been asking to make sure they're on the priority list in terms of vaccinations, to make sure the antivirals are in place - and we get body bags. It's appalling."

    New Democrat MP Judy Wasylycia-Leis said she's demanding an immediate investigation into the government's "callous, insensitive and incompetent" handling of swine flu preparations on First Nation reserves.

    She said the government delayed sending hand sanitizers to communities and won't sponsor flu kits, but is prepared to send body bags.

    "We find this absolutely abhorrent and repugnant," she said. "I think it just reflects a much deeper-rooted problem that Health Canada has in terms of recognizing the serious nature of H1N1 on reserves."




    If nothing but body bags were sent I think I could understand the anger, but they were part of a larger shipment. Heaven forbid the feds should send some body bags to remote communities in anticipation of an epidemic. How dare they!!

    "It's like sending body bags to Afghanistan for our soldiers..."

    Quite frankly I'd be surprised if we haven't sent body bags to Afghanistan.
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  • #2
    Didn't read it. But being outraged preemptively can be nice :Wiglaf:
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    • #3
      I love a good reason to despise the CPC but this seems pretty stupid to me.

      Mind you, the Health Minister comes off as a complete incompetent. She needs to grow a spine.
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      • #4
        Those body bags are probably infected with smallpox.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Wezil View Post
          I love a good reason to despise the CPC but this seems pretty stupid to me.

          Mind you, the Health Minister comes off as a complete incompetent. She needs to grow a spine.
          Which ministers don't?
          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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          • #6
            Imagine if that happened in the US. Glenn Beck would assume that they government was running death camps. And Sloww, Ben, and TMM would believe him.
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            • #7
              We had a leaked audio tape a few months ago of another Cabinet Minister. On the tape she claimed the Health Minister wasn't very good. It appears she was right.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaShi View Post
                Imagine if that happened in the US. Glenn Beck would assume that they government was running death camps. And Sloww, Ben, and TMM would believe him.

                The Opposition is all over this one. I'm finding it bizarre.

                We don't have the idiocy of Limbaugh or Beck or anything approaching it.
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                • #9
                  And Sloww, Ben, and TMM would believe him.
                  Drake will be so disappointed. You owe him an apology!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                    We don't have the idiocy of Limbaugh or Beck or anything approaching it.
                    You do but he moved south to Texas, unfortunately for us.

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                    • #11
                      He feels more comfy in your society.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
                        Those body bags are probably infected with smallpox.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
                          You do but he moved south to Texas, unfortunately for us.

                          No, sadly, he's still here.
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                          • #14
                            The Minister says we are going to "get to the bottom of it". Bottom of what?

                            Leona Aglukkaq says she's offended both as Health Minister and an aboriginal Canadian that her department delivered body bags to native communities as a way of dealing with H1N1 flu pandemic.

                            Calling the incident “insensitive and offensive,” Ms. Aglukkaq pledged to get to the bottom of the issue.

                            “I was born and raised in remote communities and I understand the challenges better than anyone – that's why I have met frequently with First Nations organizations,” she said in a statement released this morning. “Anyone suggesting that our government's solution to H1N1 is body bags is sensationalizing this situation.”

                            However, her statement fell short of a personal apology, something that Michael Ignatieff was demanding Thursday morning.

                            The Liberal Leader accused the government of being insensitive, saying its message is simple: “We expect aboriginal Canadians to die.”

                            Mr. Ignatieff is outraged over the government's handling of the H1N1 crisis, especially the latest controversy in aboriginal communities. He called the decision to send body bags to at Manitoba reserve “callous.”

                            “It sends a message that simply says we expect aboriginal Canadians to die and when it's combined with the fact … that they haven't sent preventative measures that can save those lives, it sends a message of callous of lack compassion,” Mr. Ignatieff said to reporters in an unusual morning scrum.

                            “I am genuinely shocked.”




                            Have we gone absolutely PC crazy?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                              The Minister says we are going to "get to the bottom of it". Bottom of what?

                              Leona Aglukkaq says she's offended both as Health Minister and an aboriginal Canadian that her department delivered body bags to native communities as a way of dealing with H1N1 flu pandemic.

                              Calling the incident “insensitive and offensive,” Ms. Aglukkaq pledged to get to the bottom of the issue.

                              “I was born and raised in remote communities and I understand the challenges better than anyone – that's why I have met frequently with First Nations organizations,” she said in a statement released this morning. “Anyone suggesting that our government's solution to H1N1 is body bags is sensationalizing this situation.”

                              However, her statement fell short of a personal apology, something that Michael Ignatieff was demanding Thursday morning.

                              The Liberal Leader accused the government of being insensitive, saying its message is simple: “We expect aboriginal Canadians to die.”

                              Mr. Ignatieff is outraged over the government's handling of the H1N1 crisis, especially the latest controversy in aboriginal communities. He called the decision to send body bags to at Manitoba reserve “callous.”

                              “It sends a message that simply says we expect aboriginal Canadians to die and when it's combined with the fact … that they haven't sent preventative measures that can save those lives, it sends a message of callous of lack compassion,” Mr. Ignatieff said to reporters in an unusual morning scrum.

                              “I am genuinely shocked.”




                              Have we gone absolutely PC crazy?

                              My take is just like yours-- If body bags are part of larger shipments, wouldn't that be expected and usual. Would not body bags be part of shipments around the country on a regular basis? I once saw the aftermath of a "jumper" off a nearby building-- The ambulance had a body bag-- how shocking

                              In remote places you might even need to stock up some more!!

                              Even if body bags were sent alone, I doubt that you can pin that on the Conservatives-- Is the minister supposed to know the contents of supply packages sent around the country??

                              Tempest-- meet teapot -- I think any politico that goes after this is an idiot-- BUt in the electioneering world we are in-- of course someone makes it a huge issue


                              Its just like the Liberals on EI and the deficet-- ON one hand they want to extend EI to everyone with 360 hours -- NINE Weeks-- and have criticized the Conservatives for not spending enough while on the other hand they say the deficet is to large

                              But thankfully other parties are supporting the govt on the EI issue so we might not see the CPC fall until next week
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