ACORN: Housing Assistance For Prostitutes

[Darius871]

What's the problem with eliminating government funding to the companies that produce the machines and weapons you use for your military?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one could make a principled distinction between "funding" an organization and making payments to it as consideration for personalty pursuant to a contract. I'm not aware of any major defense contractors being subsidized by the government outright, but to the extent that they are, they shouldn't be anyway with or without this bill.

Was the stimulus money supposed to support ACORN, or to purchase something from it?

[Asher]

So whats the problem?

What's the problem with eliminating government funding to the companies that produce the machines and weapons you use for your military?

[Dr Strangelove]

You know, if you look at those two O'Keefe and Giles, you wonder how the ACORN employees managed to keep a straight face while talking to them.

[SpencerH]

So whats the problem?

[chequita guevara]

By: Ryan Grim
ryan@huffingtonpost.com | HuffPost Reporting



Going after ACORN may be like shooting fish in a barrel lately -- but jumpy lawmakers used a bazooka to do it last week and may have blown up some of their longtime allies in the process.

The congressional legislation intended to defund ACORN, passed with broad bipartisan support, is written so broadly that it applies to "any organization" that has been charged with breaking federal or state election laws, lobbying disclosure laws, campaign finance laws or filing fraudulent paperwork with any federal or state agency. It also applies to any of the employees, contractors or other folks affiliated with a group charged with any of those things.

In other words, the bill could plausibly defund the entire military-industrial complex. Whoops.

Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) picked up on the legislative overreach and asked the Project on Government Oversight (POGO) to sift through its database to find which contractors might be caught in the ACORN net.

Lockheed Martin and Northrop Gumman both popped up quickly, with 20 fraud cases between them, and the longer list is a Who's Who of weapons manufacturers and defense contractors.

The language was written by the GOP and filed as a "motion to recommit" in the House, where it passed 345-75.

POGO is reaching out to its members to identify other companies who have engaged in the type of misconduct that would make them ineligible for federal funds.
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_294949.html

[rah]

Politics, all politics.
Acorn has been supported by and helps the DEMS.
OF course the repugs revel in the bad press and will use it to their advantage.
They're not stupid like the democrats, who rolled over and distanced themselves from an organization that has helped them considerably.

[Drake Tungsten]

No one of importance. The ACORN bills/amendments in Congress only call for ACORN to be denied federal funds.

[Darius871]

No one's calling for the dismantling of ACORN. People are calling for federal funds to be denied to ACORN, given the organization's widespread corruption.

Eh, define "no one." Perhaps no one here.

[Drake Tungsten]

No one's calling for the dismantling of ACORN. People are calling for federal funds to be denied to ACORN, given the organization's widespread corruption.

[Theben]

Clean up their act is fine. Dismantle the organization is not. Unless we need to dismantle the police and army* for all their mistakes made by low-level personnel. Yet that's what the GOP wants.


*- I would add congress to that but probably wouldn't get any argument.

[Drake Tungsten]

The article, quite pointedly, points out that ACORN is being targeted by the GOP because it's one of the main reasons they lost the election.

ACORN brought the financial system to its knees?

[Japher]

Was it "X", "ex", "axe", "ask", "ecks", or "chad"?

[Asher]

how hard is it to spell "X"

Ask Florida residents.

[rah]

Beside the total bias of the Guardian article.

But when a few actual low-level bad apples – who happen to be African-American, and working for a group fighting for the American Dream for all Americans – commit petty stupidity, the entire organisation must be brought down in order to save the country.
And Democrats, as weak-kneed and foolish as they are, can't seem to come up with the courage to fight back.

I love they had to point out that they were african-americans, like white people wouldn't be so stupid.
And they weren't being stupid, they were breaking the law. There can be no excuses for that. I don't think it's lack of courage not fighting back, but a realization that what they've done doesn't deserve support. Or you're accusing all the people currently in charge of our country of blatant cowardice. (probably not that far from the mark

[MikeH]

how hard is it to spell "X"