[serious] Off Topic Moderation Input - Part 2

[SlowwHand]

Then why argue with him? Why not recognize and acknowledge that it's just healthy for him to rant? You think that I don't get tired of Drake, DaShi and Mobius?
Believe me, I do. But...freedom of speech and all that. It's one of the protections over which I served in the military. I might not like it, but they have the right.

[Asher]

It's not healthy for anyone to hear what he has to say.

There is no freedom of speech on private sites. He can speak all he wants in Texas. I don't want to hear it here.

[SlowwHand]

You can say what you want to say in Canada. My personal impression of you has been that you would either debate a topic or be big enough to walk away.
I still believe that's the case. Continuing the comparison, more likely than not I'll pretty much ignore the things that the three members of "The Axis of Evil" say. Why bother? Why care?

[SlowwHand]

I could point you to an example right this very moment.

[Asher]

You can say what you want to say in Canada. My personal impression of you has been that you would either debate a topic or be big enough to walk away.
I still believe that's the case. Continuing the comparison, more likely than not I'll pretty much ignore the things that the three members of "The Axis of Evil" say. Why bother? Why care?

Because it's disruptive to threads.

[SlowwHand]

You're singling out a person. I gave you 3 examples of others. It's not like those 4 are the only people.
I'm disruptive sometimes. OK, a lot of times. Why focus on one guy so much?
I think the amount of time of the ban is absolutely ludicrous. I posted "shooting the finger" smilies along with derogatory comments in every thread that I could reach at Ming.
I think that I got banned 2 weeks. This was long ago. My first banning. Broke my cherry. 6 months? Overreaction.

[notyoueither]

Mike has been clear. He does not want to ban anyone. If he has to do it, it will be for a long time and not serve as a badge of honour.

[Dinner]

Ben getting banned for 6 months shouldn't change much of anything since most of the forum already has him on ignore. If anything it might have a positive effect as the 10% can no longer quote his posts thus improving posting conditions for the other 90%.

[Dinner]

Mike has been clear. He does not want to ban anyone. If he has to do it, it will be for a long time and not serve as a badge of honour.

I say we ban Mike just because. I support his banning of Ben but I'd still like to see mods banned. Ming getting banned after the nine heads of Ming incident was an Apolyton classic.

[notyoueither]

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[Nikolai]

Sloww

Whatever happened, six months is a bit excessive. IIUC, he threatened some dudes here? Like nobody else ever has done that? Not that it is okay, but really...

[DaShi]

It was for more than just threatening someone. NYE is correct, bans should be rare and severe enough to not encourage them.

As for Sloww, expand your "debating skills" beyond just telling people to shut up and maybe you won't be treated like a ******.

[loinburger]

IIUC, he threatened some dudes here? Like nobody else ever has done that?

Nikolai: Moral Relativist Extraordinaire

And no, while I can't recall anybody else on apolyton making threats, I highly doubt that anybody has repeated their threats multiple times over the course of a month (with the possible exception of Dale, I was absent during that debacle). That's what crosses the line from "being a schmuck online" to "being a dangerously unbalanced schmuck online"

[SlowwHand]

How is he going to find you? Why do you have such a rampaging case of the drizzles?

[loinburger]

How is he going to find you? Why do you have such a rampaging case of the drizzles?

"Why do you care that he broke the site rules and the law?" A solid point! Henceforth, site rules should only be enforced if Slowwhand gives his stamp of approval. He is The Decider.

Do you have any justification for why the site rules shouldn't be enforced in this case other than "with Ben gone, Slowwhand is now the worst poster on Apolyton"?