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  • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
    Sure, disciplines that involve intelligent agents. I can ask why Hitler invaded Poland. I can't ask why an earthquake went off in 2004, kill 200,000 people, without assuming some intelligent agent caused it.
    That's bull****. You're assuming that "why" is only psychological.
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    • Why is defined as "for what purpose" and purpose is defined as requiring intent and intent is defined as requiring an intelligent actor.

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      • Why would your hypothetical "non-psychological" version of "why" mean?

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        • Originally posted by Dis View Post
          not until you explain why not existing is a paradox. I admit it sounds cool, but it isn't true. See my example above about the geometry of the universe etc.
          I am willing to believe that the Universe we see is finite, but the Universe is actually infinite and no where is it empty. It is simply impossible to have nothing on the outside of something; likewise, it is impossible to have nothing inside of something.
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          • Originally posted by Kuciwalker View Post
            Why is defined as "for what purpose" and purpose is defined as requiring intent and intent is defined as requiring an intelligent actor.
            "Why" has a number of definitions. The definition I am speaking of is not purpose, but reason.
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            • You have insufficiently defined it. "For what reason" can either mean "For what purpose" or "By what mechanism". The latter is usually shortened to how.

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              • ok ok agreed there

                I don't know. I just don't think how it got here is sufficient in the end. I think ultimately, there must be a why. I'm not suggesting there is a creator, there could be many reasons that don't involve a creator.
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                • I asked him to define "why" earlier. He refused.

                  He's a ****ing moron. I'm about 2 posts from putting him on perma-ignore.
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
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                  • What the **** is the difference between "why" and "how it got here" if there's no intelligent creator, you nitwit?
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • sn00py's question is precisely the type of pseudo-intellectual crap I hate.

                      You pose an ill-formed question, deny that the obvious responses address the issue you were attempting to get at, then refuse to clarify your terms when asked to do so.

                      Jackass.
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • Originally posted by FrostyBoy View Post
                        ok ok agreed there

                        I don't know. I just don't think how it got here is sufficient in the end. I think ultimately, there must be a why. I'm not suggesting there is a creator, there could be many reasons that don't involve a creator.
                        As we just decided, there are only two questions you can ask: "by what mechanism" and "for what purpose". The latter has to assume a creator or some similar intelligent agent.

                        I mean, you want to know if we are on this Earth for a purpose. The only way there could be a purpose would be if someone put us there with intent for us to do something.

                        By the way, if there is a God and it's possible to communicate with him, then science can answer why.

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                        • Please put me on ignore KH, you don't deserve my love.

                          Kuci, I need to think about this more, I don't want to go down the road that there is a creator, but I want to assume there is a why, because it would make more sense (ironically). btw, when you say we, you don't mean just us humans I hope, that would just be selfish.
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                          • btw, when you say we, you don't mean just us humans I hope, that would just be selfish.


                            What? Who cares about the humans? I was talking about us Reptilians.

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                            • I ignored this thread when I first saw it, and I'm glad I did.

                              I'm also glad that so many irritable people didn't ignore it.

                              Two thumbs up
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                              • Kuci, I need to think about this more, I don't want to go down the road that there is a creator, but I want to assume there is a why, because it would make more sense (ironically). btw, when you say we, you don't mean just us humans I hope, that would just be selfish.


                                What the **** do you have to think about? This issue was brought up IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF POSTS.

                                Everybody else (save, probably, slowwy) was able to see what an idiotic question you were asking IMMEDIATELY. We've just been making fun of you ever since then.

                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

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