Can critical thinking explain why we are here?

[chequita guevara]

[Q=KrazyHorse;5653700]a) That is not an "event horizon"[/q]

It's a boundary beyond which light cannot escape. All the stuff I've been reading lately describe it as an event horizon. I realize Discovery is crap, but my understanding is that Scientific American is pretty well respected.

b) There are points in the universe which we were previously in causal contact with which we will never be in contact with again, due to inflation. I don't understand what you're saying here. If I'm locked in a room with a cat, then the cat is pulled out of the room and the door is locked again, then the cat (over the period of time it was in the room) continues to be part of my universe. The current cat is not part of my universe, but this terminology is itself flawed due to relativity.

I understand what you are writing, but I've been led to believe that there's a limit to how far we can see and that there are parts of the universe that have always been cats outside that locked door. But, I'm not a theoretical physicist.

[SlowwHand]

But you're a gutless wimp. I'll take being a little yippy dog. I can't help it that you post no balls comments without anything but your narcissistic thinking to back it up.

[notyoueither]

thanks for your opinion, that's merely all I was asking for, not some parading ballet avoidance dance demonstrated by KH, all because he can't fathom the idea that he doesn't or can't know something.

Language issue.

The language of science does not have a word for 'why'. When you meet a native in his/her white coat and try to introduce the concept, they will look at you crossly and wonder why the ****** is trying to teach them something that is useless.

The concept you want to introduce and talk about does not help them pick their berries, or kill the predators. It's useless. If you press the issue, they are likely to hoist you over a spit and feast on your carcass.

The band that KrankyHorse is from is particularly fierce and reclusive. They spit furriners for looking at them the wrong way, or misplacing a decimal point. Headwoman kuciscreamer is usually nearby with a fire going. You might also meet the warriors Drudge and Drearius. Beware.

[chequita guevara]

What a surprise. Slowwy can't begin to understand KH, and so claims that KH doesn't know what he's talking about.

[SlowwHand]

Headwoman kuciscreamer is usually nearby with a fire going.

Che, I understand that he rambled without saying anything. That beats hell out of you.

[FrostyBoy]

That fact that you are unable to understand what everyone was trying to tell you doesn't mean KH was the idiot here. You question was and is nonsensical.

ah, no, I fully understood what everyone was saying. But they're not answers to my question, they're answers to other questions.

But I didn't expect much from Apolyton to be honest, I just thought.... maybe there was glimmer of hope. Apolyton is full of members with narrow minds, not saying it's a bad thing, they're the "book-followers", only problem is that they don't see outside the book, much like a religion. This is a problem in my world because I am constantly trying to discover the undiscovered. KH is the kind of guy who can understand what Einstein was talking about, but can't go any further than that.

[chequita guevara]

Che, I understand that he rambled without saying anything. That beats hell out of you.

No, he said quite a bit. You just didn't understand him.

[SlowwHand]

He has no soul. He has one, but doesn't know it, and that's sad.

[KrazyHorse]

It's a boundary beyond which light cannot escape.

Not in the same way that light cannot escape a black hole. An event horizon is a specific boundary in space across which nothing crosses (at least in one direction, and non-QM). The acausality of connection between two points in space is not at all the same. For example, there are points in space (say one of them is called "b") which we can never talk to again...but for many of these "b"s there are also "c"s which we can talk to...AND which can talk to "b". This doesn't mean we can talk to "b", because by the time our message got to "c" HE would no longer be able to talk to "b". But there is no specific point in between us where things break down. There is simply a bubble which we can talk to if we send the message right now. The edge of that bubble is nothing special; it's simply the edge of OUR bubble, as it stands right now.

[notyoueither]

Why isn't the sky green?

I want it to be green, damnit!

[SlowwHand]

Here's a good for instance. WTF does this have to do with anything?

Che: Well, he uses a lot of words, he must know something.

[KrazyHorse]

The language of science does not have a word for 'why'. When you meet a native in his/her white coat and try to introduce the concept, they will look at you crossly and wonder why the ****** is trying to teach them something that is useless.

I understand what "why" means. I also understand how retarded a question it is to ask science in the context of life, the universe and everything.

[FrostyBoy]

Language issue.

The language of science does not have a word for 'why'. When you meet a native in his/her white coat and try to introduce the concept, they will look at you crossly and wonder why the ****** is trying to teach them something that is useless.

I don't agree. I believe if science is able to make sense of all that exists, it would also find an answer to why it exists. This is my opinion. I'm not saying that finding the why is the purpose of science.

[KrazyHorse]

I understand what you are writing, but I've been led to believe that there's a limit to how far we can see and that there are parts of the universe that have always been cats outside that locked door. But, I'm not a theoretical physicist.

In one model of the universe, there are. But if they are outside the room, have always been, and always will be then we will NEVER be able to discover ANYTHING about them. We might as well say that the Universe ends where our eyes do. Which is what I do.

[SlowwHand]

No, no, no. It is, therefore it is. End of discussion.