Brilliant woman solves california's problems

[MikeH]

McCain was a great candidate ruined by the far right of his party.

[MikeH]

Maybe I'm being idealistic but I want the leader of my country to be someone who people who voted for him can say something a bit more impressive about them than they think they are of average intelligence.

[Wezil]

He came across as an angry old man.

[rah]

Maybe I'm being idealistic but I want the leader of my country to be someone who people who voted for him can say something a bit more impressive about them than they think they are of average intelligence.

No arguement there. But average intelligence is far from being the moron that most people here claim that he was.

[MikeH]

Wezil: Exactly.

[Wezil]

I liked McCain years ago. I'll defer to your assessment of how he ended up that way.

[rah]

I think if the repugs hadn't been in such dire straights, he would have had a good chance of winning, but with all the excess baggage that the Bush years stuck on him contributed to that angry old man image. The repugs were being attacked so bad, he couldn't help but sound defensive and angry. It was too bad because the younger McCain came across much more optimistic about the future.

[chequita guevara]

BY all means I wouldn't call Bush the smartest man alive, but he did get elected president. While daddy's money and name recognition helped, those aren't the only reason he won. He played on a lot of people's fears and hopes (even if his advisors recommended it, he still had to choose to do it) He wasn't a complete idiot. Complete idiots whould have lost the election. Let alone winning TWICE.

Che, did your 'extreme intellect' help you get elected?

The one thing at which Bush is good is campaigning, and despite that, he lost at the national level first time out. Only massive election rigging in Florida gave him the win (it did in 2004 in Ohio too, but he did win the majority vote, nationally).

And my "extreme intellect" isn't going to get me elected because I'm a commie.

[rah]

Hmm maybe if you were smarter, you wouldn't play up on that aspect. Having met you IRL, you do come off as a likable guy.

Did you run on the communist ticket?

[Ben Kenobi]

The one thing at which Bush is good is campaigning, and despite that, he lost at the national level first time out.

You still believe he stole the election?

Dude, that ship sailed 8 years ago.

If Gore had carried his home state he would have been President. If the people of Tennessee don't want Gore, then I don't see why the people in the rest of the US should take him.

[Imran Siddiqui]

That's like the worst logic of all time... and having listened to Ben all these years, that's saying something.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Though speaking of intelligence, Mitt Romney is probably the most intelligent guy on the Republican nominee side (well, if we talk educational smarts) as he was valedictorian at Brigham Young and then graduated *** laude from Harvard Law School and in the Top 5% at Harvard Business School.

[Ben Kenobi]

That's like the worst logic of all time... and having listened to Ben all these years, that's saying something.

Even Dukakis and Mondale carried their home states.

[Imran Siddiqui]

If Mitt Romney wins the 2004 Republican nomination, there is a very good chance that he could fail to carry Michigan, but still win the election (assuming the economy doesn't come back). Would the fact he didn't win Michigan invalidate his victory?

[Ben Kenobi]

Hmm?

Mitt was governor of Massachusetts. He never served Michigan in any capacity.

Al Gore represented Tennessee in the house and Senate for 15 years.

The analogy would be Gore in Washington DC, which he did carry.