It's okay for white men to be biased, but not for minority group members to be biased.

[Patroklos]

Again, unless you can prove Sessions is not against communist ideology as a matter of course, as every decently educated person should be anyway, it does nothing but prove consistant and non racist political position.

[DaShi]

No, that has nothing to do with whether he is or is not a racist. It's an excuse, but doesn't prove that he isn't a racist.

[zakubandit]

Soto made remarks that she didn't think were racist because from her stand point they weren't. But from our perspective, as whites, we have racism thrown at us that we inadvertently have to find anything we can to get the "minorities" to seem the more racist. I have never intentionally done this, but I have done it. Like when my all black chain of a command *literally my section sergeant, platoon sergeant, LT, all the platoon sergeants, the XO, the Top, and the CO* promoted a Mexican, who was not eligible for waiver like I was, before me. We only get so many waivers a month, he wasn't eligible but they managed it somehow. I busted my ass and I didn't get my 4 for another 2 months because we didn't get waivers. That was racist in my perspective. Already the entire chain of command is black, the number of white NCOs was limited. So what do you call it when a white guy files a complaint for an entire management staff being black and there needs to be a more balanced number? Racism, bull**** affirmative action. Don't get me wrong affirmative action has some plus sides, but its a scapegoat for "minorities" to advance without just cause.

[Patroklos]

No, that has nothing to do with whether he is or is not a racist. It's an excuse, but doesn't prove that he isn't a racist.

I didn't say it proves whether or not he is a racist in general, in fact I said EXACTLY that.

What it proves is whether or not his specific accusations of communism are racist, as Mr. Fun maintains.

[DaShi]

I can't say for certain whether Sessions is a racist or not. He made some comments that certainly don't exonerate him from those claims. However, Sotomayer is in a similar position. So MrFun is correct in pointing out the irony of the situation.

[Patroklos]

No, Soto's comments were explicitely racist, Sessions are only racist if someone somwhere produces some corroborating evidence that as of right now does not exist. Or in other words, his comments are not racist.

You realize you have taken up the position that any critisism of the NAACP is racist, right?

[DaShi]

Sotomayer's comments weren't racist. That you believe that they are and Sessions' are not only shows your own bias.

And I have not taken up the position you claim. You have lost the argument at this point and are now trying paint me as a villain by putting words in my mouth. How sad for you. Now, will you need to resort to personal attacks?

[Patroklos]

Sotomayer's comments weren't racist. That you believe that they are and Sessions' are not only shows your own bias.

No it shows a firm grasp of reality. Saying one race intrinsically makes better judges than another is racist. Calling the NAACP communists is not. The fact that this very clear distinction escapes you shows bias.

And I have not taken up the position you claim. You have lost the argument at this point and are now trying paint me as a villain by putting words in my mouth. How sad for you. Now, will you need to resort to personal attacks?

Ah, the arbitrary interent announcement of victory, the most blatant way to ensure it is denied you. Congratulations.

No personal attack was made, Sessions did nothing but call the NAACP communist, and you consider that racist in and of itself. Your position was factually stated above.

You, like Mr. Fun before you, are free to explain to us how calling the NAACP communist constitutes racism. Your failure to do so thus far has not gone unnoticed.

[SlowwHand]

NAACP is full of commies. I thought that was well-known.

[Patroklos]

GOD DAMMIT SLOWW, we all know this, but as Dashi has so amply shown us actually saying that is racist

[DaShi]

No it shows a firm grasp of reality. Saying one race intrinsically makes better judges than another is racist. Calling the NAACP communists is not. The fact that this very clear distinction escapes you shows bias.

This has been discussed to death already. You were wrong then and are wrong now.

Ah, the arbitrary interent announcement of victory, the most blatant way to ensure it is denied you. Congratulations.

You're the one who needs to engage in chicanery to survive an argument.

No personal attack was made, Sessions did nothing but call the NAACP communist, and you consider that racist in and of itself. Your position was factually stated above.

Where did I say you made a personal attack? Where did I say that I consider those statements racist "in and of itself"?

To make this short: I never said such things. Again, you are making false claims. This paints you as a liar. Since you've now done it twice, it is clear that you are flailing about. So for once take something like a man.

You, like Mr. Fun before you, are free to explain to us how calling the NAACP communist constitutes racism. Your failure to do so thus far has not gone unnoticed.

I have already explained it clearly. Your hostility over your own failure here is amusing. You are just making things up to convince yourself that you are not be humilated. Ha ha.

[Patroklos]

There is not hostility in me explaining to you the obvious. I am sorry that the glaring flaws in your logic that do not allow you to accept the obvious that Sessions comments were not racist based on facts given (as opposed to your qibbling "maybe maybe not racist) is evident for all to see.

There is no argument here Dashi, you are a quibbling. Unless you have something that clearly shows his use of communist was racist, your insinuation that there is any reasonable expectation that it might be is ridiculous on its face.

Feel free to squirm around a bit more if it makes you happy.

In case you forgot, here is what you said:

but it could be

BRILLIANT!!!

So, please explain to us why you think it could be. Oh, thats right, your not in to that whole actually having a reasonable position thing. Gottcha.

[KrazyHorse]

Wow. This is almost as fun as watching the actual confirmation hearings.

[SlowwHand]

GOD DAMMIT SLOWW, we all know this, but as Dashi has so amply shown us actually saying that is racist

You leave out one key factor. DaShi is an idiot.

[zakubandit]

Calling someone a communist and it being racist is like saying calling someone a republican is racist. There is no factual evidence to support that Sessions calling NAACP communist is racist, it is not a racist comment. Saying they are all dumb Ners is. There is a very, very clear distinction between the two.