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  • All the regime seems to be succeeding in is bring down an almighty fury upon itself. Since Mousavi is probably going to arrested if he backs down (if he isn't going to get arrested regardless), he has nothing left to lose and went for all-out confrontation. People are calling for Khamenei's head now. There's no quastion about the Basij and the Pasadaran, but I wonder how much all of this is testing the loyalty of the regular (non-riot) police and army. Could be a decisive factor.

    A BBC CORRESPONDENT, TEHRAN, 1900 GMT

    We have this daily cry now from the roofs of Allahu Akhbar - God is Great - it's an opposition protest and night after night it seems to get louder and longer.

    Tonight was the loudest and longest I've heard, and that really symbolises and shows you the mood of the opposition here.

    Whatever happens, whatever the government is putting up against them, they seem more and more determined to press on.
    BBC, News, BBC News, news online, world, uk, international, foreign, british, online, service


    4:28 PM ET -- Roger Cohen's latest. Via reader Maher, it begins with an amazing moment:

    The Iranian police commander, in green uniform, walked up Komak Hospital Alley with arms raised and his small unit at his side. "I swear to God," he shouted at the protesters facing him, "I have children, I have a wife, I don't want to beat people. Please go home."


    A man at my side threw a rock at him. The commander, unflinching, continued to plead. There were chants of "Join us! Join us!" The unit retreated toward Revolution Street, where vast crowds eddied back and forth confronted by baton-wielding Basij militia and black-clad riot police officers on motorbikes.
    3:20 PM ET -- Accounts from the ground. From a reader in Iran who I've been corresponding with for the last several days:

    Just got home...haven't read you're blog yet but if there's a lot of stories about violence I'm sure they're all true. I don't know where to start, I'd taken my camera but had the sence to take out the memory card this came in hany as I was serched twice (by Basij) before getting stuck in the middle of hell. If I'd been caught with pictures it would mean jail time and a possible a charge of spying (as I'm a Canadian citizen). Eventually I dropped of the camera at the house of a friend without being able to take any pictures as it would make me a definate target...The chants of death to Khamenei are true...I witnessed peoples fear of the Basij dissapear, an 80 year old chadori woman with rocks in her hands calling for the exacution of khamenei and all Basij...A group of Basij were surrounded and forced in to a building, the front was blocked with garbage and set on fire, They (basij) opened fire on the crowd with what I assume were blanks, the crowed disspersed for a moment the came back with a fury...thats when the molotov cocktails came out. When I moved on the building was on fire...an hour later when I passed by again there wasn't much of a building left. There was full blown war...there was a young man who had taken all of a basij's things including their teargas rifle. We were finnaly able to get out on the back of motorcycle...the ride home took 25 minutes,for 15 minutes of it we were passing intermitently though Basij and protesters fires placed to displace the teargas... might I add the 3 hours that we walked through fire we didn't see one shop or car that had been damaged by protesters...however I just recieved word for the one who was kind enough to keep my camera and other belongings that the Basij had gone into her street and destoryed cars...thats all I can get out for now hope some of it may be useful...I'm pissed I was unable to get pictures.
    I'm filtering through the flood of videos, tweets, and news updates coming in from Iran. Check in for the latest.


    Videos here (warning, several are pretty bloody): http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref...was=1226533869
    DISCLAIMER: the author of the above written texts does not warrant or assume any legal liability or responsibility for any offence and insult; disrespect, arrogance and related forms of demeaning behaviour; discrimination based on race, gender, age, income class, body mass, living area, political voting-record, football fan-ship and musical preference; insensitivity towards material, emotional or spiritual distress; and attempted emotional or financial black-mailing, skirt-chasing or death-threats perceived by the reader of the said written texts.

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    • Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
      I don't fvcking know?
      You seem to have the answers, you tell me.
      BTW
      I think your pissed off about the situation and venting twords me.
      Hey, you are the one stating that freedom is NOT their goal, so I just asked what you think IS their goal.

      I already stated that I think freedom is their goal, which you denied, so...

      And yeah, I am pissed off, you posting a funny video after the one Drake posted.
      Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
      And notifying the next of kin
      Once again...

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      • I would like our Iran posters to have comment here. My assume is that this site is no blocked in Iran, yes?
        Medvedchik, mne nado tolko malinki nozh. Chik-chik :)

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        • Originally posted by Hueij View Post
          Hey, you are the one stating that freedom is NOT their goal, so I just asked what you think IS their goal.

          I already stated that I think freedom is their goal, which you denied, so...

          And yeah, I am pissed off, you posting a funny video after the one Drake posted.

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          • Originally posted by Tear of the Komsomol Girl View Post
            I would like our Iran posters to have comment here. My assume is that this site is no blocked in Iran, yes?
            I don't think we have any Iranians on Apolyton.
            Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
            And notifying the next of kin
            Once again...

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            • Are they not welcome? Or is Apolyton blocked in Iran?
              Medvedchik, mne nado tolko malinki nozh. Chik-chik :)

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              • Originally posted by Hueij View Post
                I don't think we have any Iranians on Apolyton.
                Fvcking trolls would attack them if there were.

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                • BBC recently published a misleading photo and caption combo. They showed a cropped photo of a pro-Ahmadinejad rally with the caption 'Supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi again defied a ban on protests'.

                  Innocent mistake, or deliberate propaganda?

                  Busted here:

                  http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ranprop.phpare

                  Retracted here:

                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor..._happened.html

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                  • Originally posted by Tear of the Komsomol Girl View Post
                    Are they not welcome? Or is Apolyton blocked in Iran?
                    Nah, there just never where any Iranians. Maybe they dont play Civ over there?
                    Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                    And notifying the next of kin
                    Once again...

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                    • I found it!
                      I found it!
                      This is what they are dying for!

                      http://www.thealamo.org/

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                      • Originally posted by Hueij View Post
                        Nah, there just never where any Iranians. Maybe they dont play Civ over there?
                        It is strange. An old and culture civilization that do not play Civilization?

                        Is this mean that religious state is the problem and that game civilization is maybe good use for Iran people?
                        Medvedchik, mne nado tolko malinki nozh. Chik-chik :)

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                        • Originally posted by HalfLotus View Post
                          BBC recently published a misleading photo and caption combo. They showed a cropped photo of a pro-Ahmadinejad rally with the caption 'Supporters of Mir Hossein Mousavi again defied a ban on protests'.

                          Innocent mistake, or deliberate propaganda?

                          Busted here:

                          http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ranprop.phpare

                          Retracted here:

                          http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor..._happened.html
                          Things like this are bound to happen. More and more the traditional news organistions are becoming dependant of sources like Twitter and Facebook for news out of Iran. As long as they explicitedly state their source and publicly retract when they find out they were wrong I have no problem with that.
                          Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                          And notifying the next of kin
                          Once again...

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                          • So we are all likely to be victims of bad and non-professional reports. Do we help this process here and maybe we make things worse?

                            I think no true, but there is a danger we just spread lies and misinfirmation and we must be have responsibility.
                            Medvedchik, mne nado tolko malinki nozh. Chik-chik :)

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                            • Originally posted by Docfeelgood View Post
                              I found it!
                              I found it!
                              This is what they are dying for!

                              http://www.thealamo.org/
                              I hate to repeat myself, but...
                              Originally posted by Hueij View Post
                              Man, you're funny...
                              Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
                              And notifying the next of kin
                              Once again...

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                              • Problem is when millions of people are misled by front-page 'mistakes', and a relative few see the retraction. And I don't see what twitter and facebook have to do with this.

                                Cropping a photo and subsequently confusing a huge rally of supporters between two candidates at whom the entire world is watching is a pretty big mistake.

                                And even their corrected caption doesn't identify the rally as pro-Ahmadenejad, just says 'Tehran has seen mass demonstrations by all sides since the disputed election'. A true statement, but not really in line with the photo of which Ahmadenejad remains cropped out.

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