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    President Barack Obama has said the "cycle of suspicion and discord" between the United States and the Muslim world must end.

    In a keynote speech in Cairo, Mr Obama called for a "new beginning" in ties.

    He admitted there had been "years of distrust" and said both sides needed to make a "sustained effort... to respect one another and seek common ground".

    Mr Obama said the US bond with Israel was unbreakable but described the Palestinians' plight as "intolerable".

    The president made a number of references to the Koran and called on all faiths to live together in peace.

    He received a standing ovation at the end of his speech at Cairo University.

    White House officials had said the speech was intended to start a process to "re-energise the dialogue with the Muslim world".

    'Not so unique'

    Mr Obama said: "I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect."


    Tim Franks
    Tim Franks, BBC Middle East correspondent


    President Obama's language towards Israel is strong but also, maybe deliberately, imprecise.

    Take these two sentences: "The United States does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements" and "It is time for these settlements to stop". It is the same language that Hillary Clinton has recently used. But what does it actually mean?

    Does it mean that settlement expansion should stop? Or, in fact, for existing settlements to be disbanded? Could the first sentence even mean that the US is beginning to revisit its studied ambiguity, for the past 30 years, over whether it views all Israeli settlements on occupied territory as illegal?

    Given the amount of time and effort that goes into working and re-working the text of a presidential speech, the apparent veiling of these two sentences is fascinating.

    He said "violent extremists" had bred fear and that this "cycle of suspicion and discord must end".

    Mr Obama accepted that "no single speech can eradicate years of mistrust" but urged both sides to "say openly the things we hold in our hearts and that too often are said only behind closed doors".

    He cited the Koran as saying: "Be conscious of God and speak always the truth."

    Mr Obama said Islam had "always been a part of America's story".

    He added that much had been made of the fact an African-American named Barack Hussein Obama had become US president, but he insisted his personal story was "not so unique".

    "The dream of opportunity for all people has not come true for everyone in America, but its promise exists for all who come to our shores - that includes nearly seven million American Muslims."

    'Intolerable'

    The president also said Muslim perceptions of the US must change.

    "Just as Muslims do not fit a crude stereotype, America is not the crude stereotype of a self-interested empire."

    Mr Obama said America was not at war with Islam, but would confront violent extremists who threatened its security.


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    On the key issues of Iraq and Afghanistan, the president said the US sought no permanent bases in either country.

    He said: "We would gladly bring every single one of our troops home if we could be confident that there were not violent extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan determined to kill as many Americans as they possibly can. But that is not yet the case."

    On the Israeli-Palestinian issue, Mr Obama said the bond with Israel was "unbreakable".

    He said: "Palestinians must abandon violence. Resistance through violence and killing is wrong."

    But he also said the "situation for the Palestinian people is intolerable".

    "Israelis must acknowledge that just as Israel's right to exist cannot be denied, neither can Palestine's," Mr Obama said.


    OBAMA'S TOUR

    3 June: Saudi Arabia - talks with King Abdullah on Israel-Palestinian peace negotiations

    4 June: Egypt - talks with President Hosni Mubarak, keynote speech at Cairo university

    5 June: Germany - meets Chancellor Angela Merkel, visits to Dresden and to Buchenwald concentration camp

    6 June: France - meets President Nicolas Sarkozy, attends D-Day events in Normandy

    On the key issue of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, Mr Obama said "there can be no progress towards peace without a halt to such construction".

    Israel is resisting calls to freeze building activity but Palestinian leaders have said there can be no progress towards peace without a halt.

    After the speech, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu summoned ministers to a special meeting and ordered aides and officials not to comment until a government statement was released.

    The statement said the Israeli government hoped the speech "will indeed lead to a new era of reconciliation between the Arab and Muslim world and Israel".

    BBC diplomatic correspondent James Robbins says Mr Obama was tough on both sides - perhaps tougher on Israel than we are used to hearing from an American president.

    Our correspondent says Mr Obama made it clear there was no justification for Holocaust denial but he seemed to associate the state of the Palestinians with that of slaves in America.

    A spokesman for Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said the speech was a "good start and an important step towards a new American policy".

    The AFP news agency quoted Hamas, the militant group that controls the Gaza Strip, as saying the speech showed "tangible change" but also contained contradictions.


    What is interesting is the absence of any threat against Iran. This is in line with the president's policy of avoiding threats against Iran - at least for the moment
    Paul Reynolds, BBC world affairs correspondent

    What speech really meant

    On the Iranian nuclear issue, Mr Obama said: "No single nation should pick and choose which nations hold nuclear weapons" and said Iran had the right to peaceful nuclear power.

    But he said there should be no nuclear arms race in the Middle East.

    Before Mr Obama spoke, Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei had delivered his own speech, saying the US was still "deeply hated" in the Middle East.

    On democracy, Mr Obama said that "America does not presume to know what is best for everyone".

    "No system of government can or should be imposed upon one nation by any other."

    The president also touched on women's rights, saying: "Our daughters can contribute just as much to society as our sons."

    Mr Obama arrived in Egypt from a visit to Saudi Arabia.

    Later on Thursday he will visit the pyramids before heading to Germany and France.
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  • #2
    Doubt it will change much but at least it is a positive signal to the arab world. Lets hope for the best...
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    • #3
      supporting terrorism

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      • #4
        He was nearly apologetic. Exactly the wrong message to send.
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        • #5
          Peace in the middle east will only be achieved when the people living there stop being violent retards who throw acid at their wives and daughters for going to school. The Muslim world can suck it and by "it", I mean Wiglaf's paralyzed penis.

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          • #6
            Obama apologetic, Sloww apoplectic.
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            • #7
              He came across as weak.
              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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              • #8
                didn't see the speech. Long as he didn't do any stupid bows again, I see no problem with the wording of it.

                bowing

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                • #9
                  Supporting terrorism.

                  How long before Canadians start screening Americans?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                    He came across as weak.
                    Alrighty then! Quote specific parts of the speech for us, to point out exactly where he has come across as being "weak."

                    One, two, three . . .

                    go.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      Supporting terrorism.

                      How long before Canadians start screening Americans?
                      They already do using their fascist RCMP.

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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                          He came across as weak.
                          Well, I don't see how he could be interpreted as weak. "Friendly" isn't the opposite of "strong".

                          But anyway, during the years with a president who came across as "strong", global terrorism reached an all-time high - FAIL... So why not try a new tactic?

                          And for the thread title, that's obvious trolling bait
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                            Alrighty then! Quote specific parts of the speech for us, to point out exactly where he has come across as being "weak."

                            One, two, three . . .

                            go.
                            I'll bite. I only skimmed the speech, but I think the part where he talked about woman's rights was an example of how it was kind of weak:

                            The sixth issue -- the sixth issue that I want to address is women's rights.

                            (APPLAUSE)

                            I know...

                            (APPLAUSE)

                            I know, and you can tell from this audience, that there is a healthy debate about this issue. I reject the view of some in the West that a woman who chooses to cover her hair is somehow less equal. But I do believe that a woman who is denied an education is denied equality.

                            (APPLAUSE)

                            And it is no coincidence that countries where women are well- educated are far more likely to be prosperous.

                            Now let me be clear, issues of women's equality are by no means simply an issue for Islam. In Turkey, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, we've seen Muslim-majority countries elect a woman to lead.

                            Meanwhile, the struggle for women's equality continues in many aspects of American life and in countries around the world. I am convinced that our daughters can contribute just as much to society as our sons.
                            He starts off raising the issue, saying there's a healthy debate, and considers that education is the key to equality. I'm not sure that alone is the solution, but fine. Then he goes on to almost praise states like Pakistan and Bangladesh while offering criticism of America. That strikes me as a foolish way of trying to raise the issue while offering those who disagree with it an easy way of avoiding the issue by either pointing at some isolated successes or by criticizing us.

                            "Oh, lets raise the topic of women's rights. You guys have work to do but you're doing great jobs in these countries, and you know what, we've got a lot of work to do to fix the problem in our own country".
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Chemical Ollie View Post
                              Well, I don't see how he could be interpreted as weak. "Friendly" isn't the opposite of "strong".
                              Well some people have a go at explaining it:
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