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  • #46
    I don't prefer any left of center judge

    I would have prefered anyone whose nomination annoucement was more concerned with their professional qualifications instead of any number of irrelevancies, including Sotomeyor if Obama had felt like picking her for those reasons.
    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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    • #47
      I don't prefer any left of center judge
      No ****, sherlock. I almost assuredly wouldn't have liked a McCain nominee.

      -Arrian
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      • #48
        Did my sarcastic smilie not load fast enough for you?
        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Arrian View Post
          Is there a left-of-center judge you would have preferred, Patroklos?
          One that subscribes to Legal Positivism.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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          • #50
            By the way, St. Ronnie:

            Within the guidelines of excellence, appointments can carry enormous symbolic significance. This permits us to guide by example, to show how deep our commitment is and to give meaning to what we profess.

            One way I intend to live up to that commitment is to appoint a woman to the Supreme Court.

            I am announcing today that one of the first Supreme Court vacancies in my administration will be filled by the most qualified woman I can find, one who meets the high standards I will demand for all my appointments.

            It is time for a woman to sit among our highest jurists. I will also seek out women to appoint to other federal courts in an effort to bring about a better balance on the federal bench.
            Oh noes! Identity politics!

            -Arrian
            grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

            The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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            • #51
              So? Reagan was wrong to approach it that way as well.
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • #52
                I'm confused, Arrian. Are you claiming she's an AA pick or just saying that there's nothing wrong with being an AA pick?
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #53
                  You are easily confused.

                  There seems to be a fairly large pool of qualified people, and that pool includes men, women, white people, black people, hispanic people, etc. The court is a tad low on females and has no hispanic presence. Given a large pool of qualified judges, I don't see a problem with chosing a hispanic female from the pool.

                  The "AA pick" smear is based on the idea that she's either not qualified or she's less qualified than some other (presumably white male?) candidate. Of course, you can't show that she's less qualified can you?

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #54
                    There seems to be a fairly large pool of qualified people, and that pool includes men, women, white people, black people, hispanic people, etc. The court is a tad low on females and has no hispanic presence. Given a large pool of qualified judges, I don't see a problem with chosing a hispanic female from the pool.
                    I have a huge problem with picking any professional for such a job based on race or gender. When people are not doing olympian gymnastics around it (or just waving their hand like you are), the law does too.

                    The "AA pick" smear is based on the idea that she's either not qualified or she's less qualified than some other (presumably white male?) candidate. Of course, you can't show that she's less qualified can you?
                    You are falling victim to your own strawman. Please quote who said she was not qualified.
                    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                    • #55
                      I only said she wasn't the most qualified lefty justice available, not that she's unqualified. I echo Patroklos' concerns.
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                      • #56
                        Try reading what I wrote again, Patty:

                        The "AA pick" smear is based on the idea that she's either not qualified or she's less qualified than some other (presumably white male?) candidate
                        No one here has yet asserted that she isn't qualified. Several have asserted that she's less qualified (than ??), but was chosen ahead of those other, more qualified candidates as an AA pick. The subtext is pretty similar: she sucks (or kinda sucks, or doesn't rock as much) but is getting in 'cause she's a latina. Damn liberals. Get off my lawn.

                        -Arrian
                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #57
                          What's really amusing me in this thread, though, is that many of the same folks (though not you, Imran) decrying Sotomayor's qualifications for the high court are the same hacks who, 8 months ago, were defending Palin's qualifications as a potential president.


                          Sotomayor for SCOTUS

                          Palin for VP

                          Hillary! for President
                          KH FOR OWNER!
                          ASHER FOR CEO!!
                          GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                          • #58
                            I thought Sarah Palin was awesome because she was hot, not because she was a woman. Duh.

                            Get with the story dude.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                              I'd love to see the formula used to determine "most qualified for SCOTUS."

                              Oh, what's that you say? There isn't one? Wow. Considering how many people are loudly asserting that certain nominees are not/were not the "most qualified" I'd have thought there was a test. You know: "so-and-so got a 92, but they picked such-and-such, who only got an 85! Goddamned idenitity politics!"

                              -Arrian
                              Bad logic. Even if I'm not capable of calculating who is the most qualified, I can certainly decide in many cases that someone is not. e.g. I know for a fact that I am not the most qualified person to sit on the Supreme Court

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Arrian View Post
                                There seems to be a fairly large pool of qualified people, and that pool includes men, women, white people, black people, hispanic people, etc. The court is a tad low on females and has no hispanic presence. Given a large pool of qualified judges, I don't see a problem with chosing a hispanic female from the pool.
                                I do. People think having women/minorities on the Supreme Court is great because it shows how far women and minorities have come. But it DOESN'T show that as long as the reason they get appointed to the court is to pander to political groups.

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