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  • #31
    Originally posted by rah View Post
    This statement

    they have already agreed to.......this might mean that the parents were involved which could avoid the "minor" arguement, or at least make it a grey area.

    I'll stick with my original statement.
    It's silly and stupid but if the family signed an agreement, then they should abide by it.
    So effectively the teen has to abide by the families religion even if he disagrees with it. Now I'm dead sure freedom of religion is protected by the constitution.

    (OK, no argument really, he'd probably get kicked out of the house if he didn't want to be a Christian so that's hardly the schools problem, that's a probalem with religionistas in general).
    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Krill View Post
      Well, gotta admit I misread the booze part of your point. Didn't see that it included any party they were at.

      Now, how conspicuous would the booze have to be? A keg in the back room with the majority of the people there drinking would, while being bollocks in my opinion, be justified because the cheerleaders would be able to see what is happening and walk out the door (and if they were stopped from that then I think they would have a pretty damned good arguemnt for false imprisonment myself, so I doubt the team would be the first thing to cros the mind of any sane individual).

      OTOH, if the cops broke up the party and found 2 intoxicated being drunk upstairs from a private hipflask etc? Would the shool really push to kick off the cheerleaders then? I reckon they'd be lenient because the cheerleaders aren't going to know there was alcohol there and so can't be blamed for that.

      The use of discretion would be very important there, just as it is in the above article.
      The rule stated regardless they would be suspended, but you're right there would be some gray areas. Fortunately the policy was a success while my daughter was there so that specific aspect was never tested. I would hope they would take what you're talking about into account.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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      • #33
        Are there no legal protections pertaining to the right to attend the local school?
        Christian schools are private schools. The only right he has is to attend a public school, even then your rights are limited to the rules of the school.
        Monkey!!!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Krill View Post
          (OK, no argument really, he'd probably get kicked out of the house if he didn't want to be a Christian so that's hardly the schools problem, that's a probalem with religionistas in general).
          You'll get no dissagreement from me there.
          And no, I am not supporting any of the religious aspects of the agreement. I was just stating support for honoring contracts signed.

          And for the sake of arguement, I will agree that the Kid was buckling under to presure from his parents to sign it which would void it in my opinion. But since we don't know that for sure, I'll assume that didn't happen here.
          It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
          RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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          • #35
            I think the saying "Live by the sword and die by the sword" is apt here.
            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by rah View Post
              Not allowed in all cases. Sometimes if the schools are in the same district, I've heard of this happening but not because rules were broken.
              No one here can deny you your right to finish your education. You can be suspended or kicked out of the school for being disruptive, but you still have a right to take your graduation exams.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by rah View Post
                You'll get no dissagreement from me there.
                And no, I am not supporting any of the religious aspects of the agreement. I was just stating support for honoring contracts signed.

                And for the sake of arguement, I will agree that the Kid was buckling under to presure from his parents to sign it which would void it in my opinion. But since we don't know that for sure, I'll assume that didn't happen here.
                Yeah, that would be real fun to find out in a court of law.

                But, assuming he willingly agreed to it, he probably is ****ed. Even if he has a legal argument protecting the right for him to pull whoever he wants, I doubt he'd get off the rock part of the contract, seeing how he is willing placing himself in a position to hear rock music.
                You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                • #38
                  Unless freedom of expression covers that (ie dance and music)?
                  You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                  • #39
                    Yeah, he could probably take it to court and win but by that time, the school year would have been over, he would have missed his graduation anyway, and probably already recieved his diploma. Justice served

                    The signed contract would probably have superceded those freedoms.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #40
                      It's nothing to do with freedom of expression. If you join, say, the blue man group and you decide to paint yourself orange they can fire you without recourse. Same with the school, to be apart you agree to behave a certain way and you didn't, end of story.

                      The school is a private institution.
                      Monkey!!!

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                      • #41
                        tbh I'd be suprised if they did supercede the freedoms.

                        Well, suprised at the US system of protecting individual freedoms. You'd be a proper dirty little capatilist nation, if you could sell your sould away like that.
                        You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by japher View Post
                          it's nothing to do with freedom of expression. If you join, say, the blue man group and you decide to paint yourself orange they can fire you without recourse. Same with the school, to be apart you agree to behave a certain way and you didn't, end of story.

                          The school is a private institution.
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                          You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Japher View Post
                            It's nothing to do with freedom of expression. If you join, say, the blue man group and you decide to paint yourself orange they can fire you without recourse. Same with the school, to be apart you agree to behave a certain way and you didn't, end of story.

                            The school is a private institution.
                            Realistically, he argues he was a minor and coerced into the contract because if he didn't sign he would be afraid of getting kicked out of the house.

                            Screw private institution BS, that kid could probably win, but as RAH said, he'd miss graduation anyway. Now, if it stopped him going to college...
                            You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                            • #44
                              Then that's a matter between his parents and him, not the school.

                              He could get emancipated.
                              Monkey!!!

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                              • #45
                                One might argue that the agreement was silly, but then he shouldn't have signed it. If that meant not attending that school fine, but he did sign it and should live up to it.
                                I can understand why folks would ridicule the school, but I think it's pretty cool they have schools that do it. I would have preferred it to my public high school were pretty much anything went.
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