Arlen Specter is Switching Parties!

[Ben Kenobi]

When does the union cut the cheques for the employees?

[SpencerH]

A politician making a questionable choice in order to hang onto power! Who would have thought it could happen?

[Zkribbler]

When does the union cut the cheques for the employees?

Well, there was last December, when my local returned $200 of unneeded union dues to each member just in time for the holidays.


BTW: Last night, I heard an interesting observation on the Specter move. The Republican party has driven so many of its moderates over to the Democratic Party that Specter was forced to follow them because those people are his base.

[Ben Kenobi]

Well, there was last December, when my local returned $200 of unneeded union dues to each member just in time for the holidays.

So, they returned your own money, and you are happy about that?

BTW: Last night, I heard an interesting observation on the Specter move. The Republican party has driven so many of its moderates over to the Democratic Party that Specter was forced to follow them because those people are his base.

Change it to read, 'Democrats', and that will be accurate.

Specter left because he fears Toomey crushing him in the Republican party nomination. IMHO, a wise move, to shift to the Democrats because the competition is just too tough.

[chequita guevara]

Deal with a secret ballot they can't influence?

Secret ballot is meaningless in stacked elections. In any event, EFCA says that if 1/3rd of the employees want an election, they get one. The employer should have no say in the process.

[chequita guevara]

More precisely:

Now, labor gathers cards from 50.1% of the employees asking for a union, and then the labor gets to demand an election as to whether to unionize.

That's not how it works. As soon as the 50% +1 sign cards, they can ask the employer to recognize the union. Then the employer has a the choice of whether or not to demand an election. Then for the next few months, the employer gets to have captive meetings where they tell the employees lies about unions (we'll have to replace all of you with out of work union members, etc.), fire pro-union workers, and threaten them with retaliation or plant closure if the union is voted in.

EFCA takes the decision for an election out of the employers hands, where it never should have been in the first place. EFCA allows for secret ballot if 1/3rd of the employees ask for one.

[Q Classic]

BTW: Last night, I heard an interesting observation on the Specter move. The Republican party has driven so many of its moderates over to the Democratic Party that Specter was forced to follow them because those people are his base.

Change it to read, 'Democrats', and that will be accurate.

That doesn't even make sense:

The Democratic party has driven so many of its moderates over to the Democratic Party that Specter was forced to follow them because those people are his base.

[Alinestra Covelia]

So, what does this mean? Ion Storm has closed, but maybe with Junction Point we'll see an FPS probing the moral greys of educational and healthcare issues instead?

[Q Classic]

So, what does this mean? Ion Storm has closed, but maybe with Junction Point we'll see an FPS probing the moral greys of educational and healthcare issues instead?

I'm wondering if Ernst Stavro Bloefeld adopted little Arlen. And I'm wondering how they got the rights to the Bond series for that upcoming FPS.

[Alinestra Covelia]

To be fair, he was pretty moderate in Ultima Underworld, despite being quite upset.

[DinoDoc]

Secret ballot is meaningless in stacked elections. In any event, EFCA says that if 1/3rd of the employees want an election, they get one. The employer should have no say in the process.

I get it. Labor was loosing such votes which they couldn't influence or intimidate the votes and has decided to try and change the rules of the game.

Arch-conservative George Mcgovern's views on the importance of the secret ballot

[chequita guevara]

I get it. Labor was loosing such votes which they couldn't influence or intimidate the votes and has decided to try and change the rules of the game.

No, labor was losing votes which the employer could intimidate, which was all of them. EFCA doesn't get rid of secret ballot. It only takes away the employer's right to impose it on the workers.

It takes less workers to demand a secret ballot than it takes to win card check. The workers' rights are preserved, but you'd rather LIE about the secret ballot being taken away from them.

[Ben Kenobi]

Secret ballots are important to avoid coercion.

I don't see why unions ought to be exempt from secret ballots.

[chequita guevara]

They aren't, and EFCA doesn't exempt them from secret ballots. It puts the decision for a secret ballot where it belongs, with the workers, and takes it away from someone to whom it should never belonged, the bosses. Right now, the workers have no say in the matter.

UNDER EFCA, IF 1/3RD OF THE WORKERS ASK FOR A SECRET BALLOT ELECTION, THEY GET ONE!

[Theben]

Stop yelling at the wall.