Help me apolyton, you are my only hope!

[Asher]

Because it accomplishes nothing?

http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/proj/nru/nr.html

[Q Classic]

Because it accomplishes nothing?

Well, it actually does. It suggests to anyone else who might want to consider using it that there may be better alternatives.

But -Jrabbit's right, the only reason why I started to post in this thread was out of amusement. I should have stopped with the inscrutable Asian "yes".

[SlowwHand]

Asher, come on. I don't need definitions. Help Ben out. Y'all can go back to your flame war afterwards.

[Asher]

Besides being 5x slower than excel, and wacky autosave/autorecover, how is OO worse than MS office?

Spotty file format support and compatibility. (They claim high levels of compatibility, but it constantly fails on anything more than plaintext -- take a word doc with a generated ToC or index for example).

It's a huge memory / CPU hog.

It's unstable.

It's ugly.

It's buggy.

It has an atrocious UI that buries features and people don't know they exist. But it doesn't matter because if they use them, it doesn't work.

DATA LOSS BUGS.

[Asher]

Asher, come on. I don't need definitions. Help Ben out. Y'all can go back to your flame war afterwards.

Ben never helps me out (and in fact, I swear his only reason to exist is to do the opposite). He deserves what he gets.

[Q Classic]

Besides being 5x slower than excel, and wacky autosave/autorecover, how is OO worse than MS office?

1. I dislike the fact that it has no Ribbon.
2. I dislike the fact that it has no analogue to OneNote.
3. I dislike the fact that it's ****ing slow.
4. I dislike the fact that it eats up memory.
5. I dislike the fact that it takes forever to compile, if you don't want to use the binary; if you want to use the binary, it ****s with prelinking settings.
6. I dislike the fact that it's actually one massive application, not several separate ones.
7. Draw is absolutely terrible compared to Visio, so much so that you're better off using Dia.
8. Access is ****, and so they decided they had to make one even worse than it, called Base.
9. Impress is really ****ing glitchy.

[Q Classic]

Asher, come on. I don't need definitions. Help Ben out.

Why? Maybe three, four months ago, I could have been convinced, since I hadn't completely come to the point of utter disdain. At this point, like I said, I'd be more willing to help Pol Pot.

[TCO]

Ben,

Do a search for all versions of the file. Used advanced options and make sure that you check to search hidden files and all the like.

[Jon Miller]

ROOT instead of Excel

???

Obviously I don't use Excel to do any real number-crunching. But aren't the two more complementary than replacements for each other?

ROOT is far more powerful for fitting, graphing, and doing operations on and dealing with large sets of data.

And because I spend a lot of time with ROOT, it is actually easier for me to do all that stuff in ROOT rather then Excel. Especially if I want to do something that looks good and/or is correct.

The one area I use excel and like it is to provide a simple database. For a good database I use mysql (or a bad database (I didn't program it) just a text file).

JM

[EPW]

Okay, I'll admit that I use OpenOffice because of its freeness.

Spotty file format support and compatibility. (They claim high levels of compatibility, but it constantly fails on anything more than plaintext -- take a word doc with a generated ToC or index for example).

Yes, I have experienced this.

It's a huge memory / CPU hog.

No denying it.

It's unstable.

I got the occasional crash with 2.2, but 3.0 seems much better.

It's ugly.

Once again, improved with 3.0. But I have no basis of comparison.

It's buggy.

Eh, Writer has some quirks, but Calc seems fine. I havn't used any of the others.

It has an atrocious UI that buries features and people don't know they exist. But it doesn't matter because if they use them, it doesn't work.

True, but again this has been improved with 3.0. I had to search online/ask in the tech section to figure out how to do anything interesting.

DATA LOSS BUGS.

Never experienced this myself.

[Jon Miller]

Oh, and the excel database isn't for doing software stuff on. Rather, it is for visually looking up stuff about runs/etc.

For software we use MySQL or txt files.

Oh, and ROOT is currently better for me for even small sets of data often because I am so much better at using it.

JM

[Jon Miller]

At the same time, I will say that anybody who actually sends me something (or requests something) in Word format is a ****ing **** who should learn latex.

Recently I have only used Word for resume type stuff. Oh, and last year I had to submit an abstract in Word format.

JM

[SlowwHand]

[Q Classic]

Oh, and the excel database isn't for doing software stuff on. Rather, it is for visually looking up stuff about runs/etc.

For software we use MySQL or txt files.

Oh, and ROOT is currently better for me for even small sets of data often because I am so much better at using it.

JM

SQLite works really well for smaller things....

[Ben Kenobi]

Whoa, 103 posts.

Sorry for buggering off but had a family emergency crop up.

Apparently it's a bug with 3.0 which has been fixed in the latest release. A reversion from 2.42, which did not have this bug.

Apparently I could have restored the earlier version had I not closed out the program after I ran the retrevial.

Live and learn. I've updated, and it seems to be fine now.