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    Just 53% Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism
    Thursday, April 09, 2009

    Only 53% of American adults believe capitalism is better than socialism.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 20% disagree and say socialism is better. Twenty-seven percent (27%) are not sure which is better.

    Adults under 30 are essentially evenly divided: 37% prefer capitalism, 33% socialism, and 30% are undecided. Thirty-somethings are a bit more supportive of the free-enterprise approach with 49% for capitalism and 26% for socialism. Adults over 40 strongly favor capitalism, and just 13% of those older Americans believe socialism is better.

    Investors by a 5-to-1 margin choose capitalism. As for those who do not invest, 40% say capitalism is better while 25% prefer socialism.

    There is a partisan gap as well. Republicans - by an 11-to-1 margin - favor capitalism. Democrats are much more closely divided: Just 39% say capitalism is better while 30% prefer socialism. As for those not affiliated with either major political party, 48% say capitalism is best, and 21% opt for socialism.

    The question posed by Rasmussen Reports did not define either capitalism or socialism

    It is interesting to compare the new results to an earlier survey in which 70% of Americans prefer a free-market economy. The fact that a “free-market economy” attracts substantially more support than “capitalism” may suggest some skepticism about whether capitalism in the United States today relies on free markets.

    Other survey data supports that notion. Rather than seeing large corporations as committed to free markets, two-out-of-three Americans believe that big government and big business often work together in ways that hurt consumers and investors.

    Fifteen percent (15%) of Americans say they prefer a government-managed economy, similar to the 20% support for socialism. Just 14% believe the federal government would do a better job running auto companies, and even fewer believe government would do a better job running financial firms.

    Most Americans today hold views that can generally be defined as populist while only seven percent (7%) share the elitist views of the Political Class.

    See survey questions and toplines.
    Not exactly what I want, but interesting nonetheless.
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    The interesting note is that neither concept was defined. Did they think it was european style socialism, theoretical socialism, or scary wingnut socialism?
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    • #3
      I also thought this was interesting. This seems to suggest that the left is light years away from the center, given that about 20% of Americans describe themselves as liberal (assuming that socialists and liberals overlap).
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      • #4
        I think it was a response to health care.
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        • #5
          Probably right. Or at least the large number of undecideds may be due to that.
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          • #6
            Almost certainly most of those identifying as socialists or refusing to chose capitalism over socialism think of Western and Northern Europe when they think of socialism.

            One third of people under thirty identify as socialists, though. That's very interesting.

            One of the great ironies of history is that conservatives have attracted more people to socialism than we have. Then again, I always said that Ronald Reagan converted me to communism.

            This is good news, regardless of the fact that it may not be deep, atm. It's a foot in the door and it allows us to talk to people about our ideas. I'm pretty stoked atm.
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            • #7
              Being excited about 47% of Americans - otherwise read as, 160 million retards (as opposed to the 170 million retards on the other side of the issue) - being interested in socialism is about as useful as taking a Presidential poll on a short bus in Georgia. The results may be interesting, but consider the source.
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              • #8
                I forgot almost my English, but I shall try.
                Capitalism is a system with private ownership of production's tools; Socialism
                is a system with just public ownership of production's tools. Period.
                Most important usually capitalist systems also have free entreprise,that is,
                not just private ownership, but also private leadership of said tools.
                Nevertheless fascist and nazi regimes had private ownership, but not leadership, of said tools.
                So,it looks the decisive point is not the ownership itself but the leadership.
                While in theory could exist democracy without free entreprise,it never happened.
                The so called European socialism, is just an entreprise system, it has nothing to do with production. It's social-democracy and it cares just with the sharing of wealth. Then the democratic right wing wants lower taxes and so has to shrink social benefices, while the democratic left wing wants more benefices so has to increase taxes.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chequita guevara View Post
                  Almost certainly most of those identifying as socialists or refusing to chose capitalism over socialism think of Western and Northern Europe when they think of socialism.
                  Exactly. It isn't YOUR kind of socialism. They look at France or Sweden and consider that socialism (Hell, perhaps even Canada or the UK). You can talk to them about your ideas, but they'll just think you are a loon.
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                  • #10
                    In other words, they're not real commies either.

                    (and yep, I know that Che doesn't play that game anymore, but there are lots of reds who do)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DanS View Post
                      I also thought this was interesting. This seems to suggest that the left is light years away from the center, given that about 20% of Americans describe themselves as liberal (assuming that socialists and liberals overlap).
                      Wait, where do you get that 20%?

                      One of the great ironies of history is that conservatives have attracted more people to socialism than we have. Then again, I always said that Ronald Reagan converted me to communism.
                      How is it ironic? The communists converted quite a few people to capitalists .
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                        Exactly. It isn't YOUR kind of socialism. They look at France or Sweden and consider that socialism (Hell, perhaps even Canada or the UK). You can talk to them about your ideas, but they'll just think you are a loon.
                        I'm more disconcerted that there is still ~25% support for the republicans, and a good chunk of these listen to Rush and his ilk. That's about 1/4 of the country suitable for a fascist movement.
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                        • #13
                          Hmm.

                          If you were to kill 12 Republicans, you'd hit only 1 socialist. Pretty good odds there.
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                          • #14
                            I'm more disconcerted that there is still ~25% support for the republicans, and a good chunk of these listen to Rush and his ilk. That's about 1/4 of the country suitable for a fascist movement.
                            What makes you think it's the conservatives that believe in Fascism? We didn't vote in Obama.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                              What makes you think it's the conservatives that believe in Fascism? We didn't vote in Obama.
                              No no no. Bush was the Fascist. Obama is the anti-American, Islamic, socialist, communist terrorist. Try and keep up.

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