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  • #31
    Originally posted by DanS View Post
    Yes, retarded. However, such expenditures are wholly sustainable, even if unreasonable. Also, those drone squadrons are damn expensive too. A squadron of 24 UAVs has about 500 personnel.
    Correct DanS

    Often people is understand quantifying military projects based upon one aspect

    Perhaps the Raptor is not the aircraft we need but what will the next one cost or will it be cost prohibitive based upon budgetary constraints?

    I remember a movie with Gregory Hines and Chevy Chase, selling military weaponry from back in the early 80's.

    It rained and this drone aircraft couldnt fly when it got wet

    I remember a remark made by one of the contractors..."Who cares if it works, we have the contract on the replacement parts"

    sad but oh so true.....
    Hi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah

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    • #32
      The marginal value of additional F-22s (beyond the 187 already in train) as relates to air superiority missions is low.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #33
        I'd like evidence for that claim.

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        • #34
          The fact that apparently they were able to cut from the originally planned 750 F-22s to 295 and still maintain a robust air superiority capability.

          Besides, as far as I know, no drones have been designed with air superiority as a primary mission. Who's to say drones can't do just fine in this capacity?
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #35
            There's no objective way of measuring whether our air superiority capability is "robust" or not; we'll find out the next time we get in a war where we need to establish air superiority.

            There are, of course, computer simulations that attempt to determine "how much is enough" in a more rigorous fashion than mere guesswork, but I doubt you're basing your claims on access to them or their results.

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            • #36
              By no means. I also cross-edited you.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #37
                we're number one. Let's stop wating time in Iraq and afganistan and pare back. The Cold War is over. Who will we fight? The Martians?

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                • #38
                  Drake, who the **** is going to field enough good aircraft to argue with 300 F-22s and a bunch of lighter fighters, these lighter fighters being the equivalent of any aircraft they're likely to fly against?
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                  • #39
                    [q=]Who's to say drones can't do just fine in this capacity?[/q]

                    Drone manufacturers don't seem to think they're ready for air superiority missions.

                    we're number one. Let's stop wating time in Iraq and afganistan and pare back. The Cold War is over. Who will we fight? The Martians?


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                    • #40
                      It's all ****.
                      Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View Post
                        Drone manufacturers don't seem to think they're ready for air superiority missions.
                        That's what R&D is for.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TCO View Post
                          Who will we fight? The Martians?
                          The martians can suck my dick.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #43
                            That's what R&D is for.


                            They'll be ready eventually; the question is whether they'll be ready soon enough to make a jump from the F-15 to a replacement UAV a better solution than replacing the F-15 with the F-22 in the interim. That doesn't appear to be the case.

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                            • #44
                              What's the hurry?
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #45
                                The F-15s are nearing the end of their service life.

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