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  • #91
    Originally posted by Sirotnikov View Post
    I'm the last person to claim video-conferencing or collaboration tools are bad or inadequate. They're great, and the enable things that never happened before. But, they can not totally replace physical proximity, and that should be preferred, when possible.

    I'm not talking about stuff like disruptions or delays. I'm talking about the necessity of all staff being on a single mission, being physically in the same group, and in the same mindset.

    It isn't crucial for civilian uses, but military stuff is different. When you have AUV's responsible for real-time video, or more importantly - real-time sniping and shooting, the operators need to be as close to the local commanders as possible. They need to have the same mindset, the same worries, be aware of the same stuff in the control room. They even need t go on the same coffee breaks, and have chats at the cooler together.

    It does create a huge difference. It creates cohesion and allows for cooperation on a level that otherwise simply does not happen.

    Not a military mindset in America Siro

    Not sure if it has been for a long time

    Airstrikes,Artillery,Naval Bombardment, are but three examples of units not being in close proximity to ground units fighting close proximity battles.

    Unit cohesiveness is important, but by no way or means slows a military operation down


    If you have grid coordinates, what real difference does it matter if an AWAC in flight, a naval Vessel in a bay or far off coast or a bunker or a command module thousands of miles away, information is information.

    Execution of function, orders sent in/requested and then approved.

    Execute them

    Goes back to a basic premise most new troops learn...

    "DUCK" when shouted people should hit the ground, not question the authenticity or await confirmation via visual interaction
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Grandpa Troll View Post
      Not a military mindset in America Siro

      Not sure if it has been for a long time

      Airstrikes,Artillery,Naval Bombardment, are but three examples of units not being in close proximity to ground units fighting close proximity battles.

      Unit cohesiveness is important, but by no way or means slows a military operation down


      If you have grid coordinates, what real difference does it matter if an AWAC in flight, a naval Vessel in a bay or far off coast or a bunker or a command module thousands of miles away, information is information.

      Execution of function, orders sent in/requested and then approved.

      Execute them

      Goes back to a basic premise most new troops learn...

      "DUCK" when shouted people should hit the ground, not question the authenticity or await confirmation via visual interaction
      You are a wise man, Grandpa Troll.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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      • #93
        Air superiority over the Taiwan Straits is a NAVY job. Last time I checked, the F-22 doesn't take off carriers.

        And no, I don't expect F-22's to be based on Taiwan in the course of such a conflict, given the vulnerability of Taiwanese airfields to missile attacks.


        You're insane if you think the U.S. would find the risk of operating F-22s off of Taiwanese airfields to be too great but would be fine with sending American carriers close enough to the Chinese coast to get involved.

        The first overseas deployment of the F-22 was in Okinawa for a reason.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Naked Gents Rut View Post
          The first overseas deployment of the F-22 was in Okinawa for a reason.
          They felt like showing off a piece of functioning American engineering to disbelieving Japanese?
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #95
            The Japanese want the F-22, but the U.S. won't let Lockheed sell it to them.

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            • #96
              We're not going to get into a serious conflict with China. Spending good money to ensure massive superiority over them is dumb.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #97
                We already have massive supeiroirity over China. The US spends more than half of the entire world budget for hard core war toys. We are the shiznet.

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                • #98
                  Shewfelt is 110% gay. In the blog he's in the powerbottom position with a grin on his face.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • #99
                    A Chicom sub is going to sink a U.S. carrier one day. Just watch.

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                    • Originally posted by TCO View Post
                      We already have massive supeiroirity over China. The US spends more than half of the entire world budget for hard core war toys. We are the shiznet.
                      Yep. I'm referring to the status quo policy.
                      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                      -Bokonon

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                      • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        Shewfelt is 110% gay. In the blog he's in the powerbottom position with a grin on his face.
                        he has a gf

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                        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                          Because you mostly use them for things such as intel and recon that is on theater level or below, and for combat support, which should be directed by the local commanders, who run the show locally.


                          Perhaps you've heard of this wonderful invention. It's called a telephone.
                          Fascinating.
                          Tell me more.

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                          • Originally posted by TCO View Post
                            he has a gf
                            And Sheryl Swoopes was married. She even had a kid.

                            She was still obviously gay.

                            Trust me on this. Shewfelt is a flaming homosexual.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • he acts strange, granted.

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                              • It's strange for any man to want to be a gymnast.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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