Zkribbler's House -- Watch it being built!

[Zkribbler]

If you're talking about the laundry room shown in the other thread, here's what's going on.

Right now, it's being built as a secure storage area. Soon, a wooden front with a door wide enough to take the cement mixer will be built. As the project is being finished, the wooden wall will be replaced with a cement wall with a normal-size door.

[Lancer]

Nope. What I said was...
Leave a meter at the bottom of the steps. I know waves will wash pebbles over the last few steps, and that's fine.
The steps should be no steeper than 45 degrees--but they don't need to be long and shallow.
Having more than a meter at the top of the steps is fine and is, in fact, desireable.

Good, this is why I want to review. I'll be picking your brain alot. To me, 8" risers and a 12" step will achieve your goal and put you safely into the water after a few flavored hot chocos. However if you don't like it measure a few steps that you see around and set a step length and rise (depth) that you like.

More than a meter at the top, I'll pass that on, and leave the last step one meter high because of the gravel, I'll pass that on too...

[Lancer]

Zkrib, to achieve a 45 degree set of stairs the riser would be the same as the step, if my brain were functioning correctly for once, and that would be kinda difficult. ?

[Zkribbler]

Good, this is why I want to review. I'll be picking and leave the last step one meter high because of the gravel, ...

No. One meter long...so people don't crash into the rocks when they're trying to turn off the steps and onto the beach.

Zkrib, to achieve a 45 degree set of stairs the riser would be the same as the step, if my brain were functioning correctly for once, and that would be kinda difficult. ?

I'm pretty sure that's what I have in my current house...but I'll measure it tonight and get back to you (about 5 - 6 hours from now).

[Lancer]

Ok, got it...a meter between the last step at the bottom and the big rocks.

[Zkribbler]

Yep!

[UnOrthOdOx]

Oh, memories of childhood...

My brother (know it all 16 year old in calculus) and my dad (failed basic math in highschool) arguing over how to build the stairs going into the addition we were building. Heath (brother) doing the maths, Dad cutting boards according to some book's recommendations.

Neither worked.

My suggestion is what worked then: Lay a piece of plywood at the angle you want, make the horizontal steps with a level, presto. Template for staircase.

[chequita guevara]

club thread

[Krill]

Club House thread

[Zkribbler]

... 8" risers and a 12" step ...

I just measured the steps in my house, and although I thought they were at a 45 degree slope, it turns out they have 8" risers and a 10" step. I've gone up and down them several times a day for 15 years, and only fell down them once. So nothing less steep than that.

I gotta admit though, your proposed 8" risers and a 12" step sounds pretty good. There won't be a handrail and sometimes the stairs will be wet, so a gentler slope is a good idea.

Darn! I hate it when you're right!

[Lancer]

When I'm right, you benefit.

I had Sho up just before we left this morning to review everything, stairs etc. I even showed him my PM to you where I made the suggestion about stiffening up the wall facing thickness and painting the metal bar with epoxy (he suggested 'All Purpose') and tieing the metal bar from the facing in to the house posts so he knows about that.

I suggest you send the whole lot of anything you want done to Tito. He is more likely to understand the math involved and give instructions for a workable form to Sho and Uncle Iking who is our most expert form builder. I know how I'd do it and I'm interested to see if he does something like. Just for yucks I'll tell you how I'd do it. I'd determine the height of the wall and divide by the 8" rise of each step. That would tell me how many there are. Then I'd multiply that # by the 1' step to determine where the steps will end and landing begin starting one meter in from the big rocks of the BBall. Then I'd start making pours 8" high and as long as needed and repeat until done moving 1' in each time. Alternately I'd make a form maybe 32" or 40" high with cavities for several 8" steps to increase the size of the pours, but either way. Then the upper landing will fall where it will...

I took some pics this morning which I hope to upload when Loni gets off the other comp. Also Dolores puts them in 'my pictures' in a much more organized fashion than I ever did last year. Anyway the question pertains to the circumference wall and where it will meet the seawall before the pipe that runs under the street and its gully. (Down the far end) The reason is that Sho wants to put the roots of the metal bars for the posts of the circumference wall into the seawall to give them good footings. There will be maybe 2 or three circumference wall posts deep into the seawall which should stiffen that end up nicely if that's what you want. So, once you have pics you can better decide. You've seen what we did at our place for privacy and how it worked...

So, when the pics are up it will be the time.

[Zkribbler]

I suggest you send the whole lot of anything you want done to Tito.

I'm not sure I follow you. When you say, "the whole lot of anything," are you talking about the seawall, the stairs, the house, and/or the entire project?

If you're talking about the stairs:

I'd determine the height of the wall and divide by the 8" rise of each step. That would tell me how many there are. Then I'd multiply that # by the 1' step to determine where the steps will end and landing begin starting one meter in from the big rocks of the BBall. Then I'd start making pours 8" high and as long as needed and repeat until done.

...is how I'd do it too. But I don't think this is a Zkribbler call. Isn't deciding how something to be built a question for the foreman (Sho) and supervisor (you) and maybe the architect (Tito)?

[Zkribbler]

Shoot. I just thought of something.

I designed the interior stairways to have a 45 degree slope--for a meter and a half, they climb a meter and a half, then there's the landing, and the stairs come back, climbing a meter and a half in a meter and a half. This means the stairs are too steep. To be correct, they should climb a meter and a half over about two meters. Gack. Very tired now. I'll think about this problem over night.

[Lancer]

I'm the supervisor?

Well ok. That's how we'll do the stairs then.

Yeah, if you figured a 45 degree set of stairs inside then either fix it or put some climbing gear in the next box...

[Lancer]

This is where the wall turns the corner by that grove of trees which would be an excellent place to have a friend, perhaps even a supervisor, over for a cold one.

Does the circumference wall end right there on the bend? Or, if elsewhere...where? I'll put more pics.