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You make stoopid look like Albert ****ing Einstein.Originally posted by TCO View PostI'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- NedComment
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Drake, you know I love you, you crazy bastard, but if we can't even agree on the fact that waterboarding obviously fits the US and International Red Cross definitions of torture, there is no ****ing point to this.
Actually, it doesn't really matter if we agree on calling it "torture" or not. 71% of Americans are on my side (ie. enhanced interrogations might be worth the cost in some cases) even if you call the techniques "torture"...
I wouldn't care a whit about using the term "torture" (even if I think it's inaccurate) to describe enhanced interrogations if it wasn't a means of shutting off debate on whether these techniques are worthwhile or not.KH FOR OWNER!
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It's still against the law, no matter what the polls say."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Actually, I doubt waterboarding as performed by CIA interrogators was against the law. They had legal cover from the Bush Administration that would probably hold up in court if Obama decided to prosecute them. He won't do that, though, as he's not a moron.KH FOR OWNER!
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They had legal cover that supercedes a U.N. treaty signed by a U.S. President and ratified by the U.S. Senate?"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Yes. The CIA does usually illegal stuff overseas all the time with the approval of the President.KH FOR OWNER!
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It's still ILLEGAL, Drake."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Actually, it's "extra-legal".KH FOR OWNER!
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No. We are a ****ing nation of laws, and the laws apply to everyone. This **** can not be allowed. It needs to be fully investigated, and--yes--prosecuted, to ensure that it never happens again.
We're supposed to be the good guys, for ****'s sake."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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That was directed at Drake.Originally posted by Guynemer View PostI'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- NedComment
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We are a ****ing nation of laws, and the laws apply to everyone.
No, they don't. They don't apply to foreign citizens outside the U.S., for example. They also don't apply to CIA officers overseas who have the proper authorizations from the President and (eventually) Congress.KH FOR OWNER!
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**** us!“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
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In this case, they do.Originally posted by Drake Tungsten View PostI'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- NedComment
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Tell that to all the prisoners in Bagram.KH FOR OWNER!
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