Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Suck it, Bush!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Originally posted by Ming View Post
    Yeah... but if you had to finance it via income taxes, then eveybody would have to pay for it, and wouldn't be as popular. Now they can just dump on the smokers, since eveybody hates them anyway

    And yes, a stupid idea since the costs will only increase over time while the revenue continues to decline. Real brilliant economics there...
    Yes sir, why thinking about future revenue streams when you could use a political boogeyman?
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

    Comment


    • #17
      You guys are a bunch of whiners when it comes to any possible increase in income taxes. News flash; you can't get something for nothing.

      You would rather we just do nothing about the issues we face in our country just so we do not see any increase in our taxes?


      But yeah, I agree that relying on taxes on cigs is stupid. But they did this so people like some of you on here don't start bawling.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

      Comment


      • #18
        Just for once, I would love to see them say they are going to fund a new program by cutting some other spending... Like foreign aid to countries that don't support our global efforts, pork projects, or some other area where spending should be trimmed. But no, they always seem to just want to spend more overall instead of making hard choices.

        I'm sure there has to be more efficient use of the money we are already giving them
        Keep on Civin'
        RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

        Comment


        • #19
          Stick it to the smokers, its fun to watch them whine!
          Long time member @ Apolyton
          Civilization player since the dawn of time

          Comment


          • #20
            So taxing tobacco could make people smoke less? Tragedy!
            http://www.hardware-wiki.com - A wiki about computers, with focus on Linux support.

            Comment


            • #21
              I dislike children more than smokers so I am against this. Children

              Comment


              • #22
                Yeah, they should be seen and not heard. Even when they're dying of leukemia.
                Unbelievable!

                Comment


                • #23
                  Leukemia is nothing. It helps build character.

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Cigarette taxes et. al. are economically optimal - FACT.

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      It's likely we will see an increase in waiting lines, since we'd be adding the tens of millions of Americans who are currently uninsured.
                      Not just that, you will also see a decrease in private insurance. Why pay when the state will pay for you instead.

                      I don't see how you can predict a decrease in the quality of health care, given the atrocious state of America's current system.
                      One of the things I was surprised is that you have much better equipment down there then we do up here. I'm not sure how they are ranking quality, but when Canadians are willing to pay for care in the US, that they cannot get up here, I would presume your quality to be greater. YMMV.

                      We already rank below developed countries with evil "socialized" medicine, while at the same time our per capita spending is 2-3x more.
                      I'd be less likely to trust MM who's never actually been to Canada.
                      Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                      "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                      2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        Cigarette taxes et. al. are economically optimal - FACT.
                        Perhaps, but half our entire budget goes to fund our medicare. Are you going to tax smokers 10 thousand per carton?
                        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                        "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                        2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Most likely once the headlines go away the costs will be shifted to income taxes.

                          We'll see whether or not Obama will do the "line-by-line" cost cutting of govt expenditure.
                          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            I thought democrats were opposed to the line-item veto.
                            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                            2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Only when there's a republican president
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                I thought anyone in favor of Congressional power (to balance Presidential power) was against the line item veto.

                                In other words, whoever doesn't hold the Presidency...

                                -Arrian
                                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X