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Originally posted by Jaguar
I'm excited about that, and I'm a white McCain voter.
I'm excited about that, and I'm a white McCain voter.
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So you're still clueless, but at least you have empathy.
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Obama's a good dude, but for me to have voted for him, he would have needed to do one of the following:
1. Change tax plan so that it's not just an exercise in sticking it to rich people
2. Stop pushing for universal health care when the nation isn't ready to afford it.
3. Come out against agricultural subsidies like McCain has.
There are plenty of positives, though, and I wish him the best of luck once he takes office."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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If it is a return towards how things were, how is it an exercise in sticking it to rich people?
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Why should those things be mutually exclusive?
Also, if we really want to return to how things were, how about repealing the 16th amendment?*
*I don't actually endorse this, the suggestion was merely made to make a point."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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Don't we spend more on our health care than countries with universal health care? So wouldn't following their example lessen the cost, not increase it?Originally posted by Jaguar
2. Stop pushing for universal health care when the nation isn't ready to afford it.You've just proven signature advertising works!Comment
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We do. We're the richest country, so we have the most to spend on expensive treatments, and we don't live particularly healthily.
Changing around who pays for something doesn't make it any cheaper."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
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correctOriginally posted by Seedle
Don't we spend more on our health care than countries with universal health care? So wouldn't following their example lessen the cost, not increase it?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Can you sit down with Rah and explain this to him?Originally posted by Jaguar
As a side note, I don't see why being "excited to vote for the first black nominee for president" makes her a racist, which seems to be a popular opinion in this thread.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Uh, if a black person votes for a candidate because he is black, then he is not voting for the other candidate because he is white.Originally posted by MrFun
Uh, if a white person refuses to vote for a candidate because he's black that is racism.
If a white person looks at the black candidate's qualifications and the black candidate's positions on the issues and then decides not to vote for that person that would not be racism.
Edited for Boris.
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Last edited by Tuberski; November 4, 2008, 00:39.Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!Comment
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Not true. One can vote for a candidate without being voting against the other. Sometimes people actually do *like* the candidates they have to choose from.Originally posted by Tuberski
Uh, if a black person votes for a candidate because he is black, then he is not voting for the other candidate because he is white.
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I voted for Obama in the primary. It wasn't an indictment of Clinton (who I like as well), it was support FOR Obama.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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So, you voted for Obama because he's black?Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Not true. One can vote for a candidate without being voting against the other. Sometimes people actually do *like* the candidates they have to choose from.
I voted for Obama in the primary. It wasn't an indictment of Clinton (who I like as well), it was support FOR Obama.
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Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!Comment
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You're missing the point, which was that voting for a candidate doesn't require one to be voting against the other.Originally posted by Tuberski
So, you voted for Obama because he's black?
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Yes, it does.Originally posted by Boris Godunov
You're missing the point, which was that voting for a candidate doesn't require one to be voting against the other.
Your vote doesn't go to the other person, it counts against him.
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Again, not the point. We're talking about rationale for voting, not its practical effect.Originally posted by Tuberski
Yes, it does.
Your vote doesn't go to the other person, it counts against him.
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No it doesn't. A vote for Nader is not counted against McCain or Obama (or Barr, or McKinney, or the Constitution party dude, or Ron Paul in two states), its tallied in Nader's column.Originally posted by Tuberski
Yes, it does.
Your vote doesn't go to the other person, it counts against him.
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