Daughter of slave votes for Obama

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by rah
And party-line voting isn't necessarily a bad thing, but if you've done it 70 years in a row without exception, I don't think you're giving it enough thought so I believe no reasoning is actually taking place.

It doesn't take much thought to come to the conclusion that republicans are against blacks.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Everytime a white person votes for white candidate they're racist. You do not see how dumb this so-called "reasoning" is??

Exactly the point. Why don't you tell some people on your side of the aisle how dumb that so-called "reasoning" is.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by rah


I don't believe I said any such thing if you read all my responses. My point was I don't see her story as anything special. No matter who won the dem primary, she would have voted for them.

Or do you think we should be scouring the countryside looking for the oldest black person just to say she lived long enough to see a black candidate. This just seems silly. WE ALL GET IT. HE"S THE FIRST BLACK CANDIDATE.

We have no idea how negatively she's been impacted by descrimination.

And party-line voting isn't necessarily a bad thing, but if you've done it 70 years in a row without exception, I don't think you're giving it enough thought so I believe no reasoning is actually taking place. She's just pressing the button.

First - you're really depreciating the historical, ground-breaking event of Obama's victory tomorrow.

Second - I still disagree with your point about party-line voting. Why would she ever consider a candidate of the other party if that other party had become so strongly opposed to equal civil rights protection??

I'm never voting for a Republican candidate for example, until such a candidate openly and publicly denounces the party's ties with religious right and favors equal civil rights protection for gays and lesbians. I don't think that makes me dumb simply because I do not want to slit my own throat.

[Patroklos]

So all those Irish who voted for Kennedy were racists?

Yes.

What about all those evangelicals who voted for Bush?

You understand "evangelical" is not a race, correct?

Why is it acceptable when Irish...

Who said it was acceptable? Do you think that fact wasn't derrided by the WASPs of the opposing side at the time?

or religious nuts do it but you feel a special need to claim racism when Blacks decide to vote for someone who has their background/values?

Because the color of your skin tells you nothing about a person's background or views. To automatically think that is, by definition racism.

You do understand that the life of Barrack Obama is hardly normal, and really isn't similar to most American's period let alone blacks. Unless you think most blacks are half white, spent their early childhood in a foriegn country, and grew up in Hawaii.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Everytime a white person votes for white candidate they're racist. You do not see how dumb this so-called "reasoning" is??

Exactly the point. Why don't you tell some people on your side of the aisle how dumb that so-called "reasoning" is.

I already have, with the post you quoted.

But it's curious that you don't step up to say same thing when people are accusing blacks of being racist in this same context.

[GePap]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Great! I'm glad you believe that Caucasians who dont vote for Obama just cos he's African-American are not racist (as long as they think he's qualified).

I don't think that their "racism" in that regard is any more damaging than their secterianism, sexism, political bias, or any of the other reasons they did not vote for Obama.

[Patroklos]

The silliness of the former can be shown by a simple example. If we wanted to make a move about the lives of slaves before the Civil War, we would need to hire Black actors. That would be discrimination based on race. Under the vulgar definition that many folks (especially conservatives want to use), that would be racism. That is absurd

God you are a complete ****ing idiot

[Winston]

Originally posted by dannubis
So whishing someone to die is underhandedly funny... Again, classy

No, what's funny, I suppose in an underhanded way, is that you don't know how to read select other people's posts properly.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Patroklos


God you are a complete ****ing idiot

When did you start refering to yourself in the second person? Its weird.

[Patroklos]

Oh look, Gepap still has the insult skills of a three year old.

[rah]

Originally posted by MrFun


First - you're really depreciating the historical, ground-breaking event of Obama's victory tomorrow.

Second - I still disagree with your point about party-line voting. Why would she ever consider a candidate of the other party if that other party had become so strongly opposed to equal civil rights protection??

I'm never voting for a Republican candidate for example, until such a candidate openly and publicly denounces the party's ties with religious right and favors equal civil rights protection for gays and lesbians. I don't think that makes me dumb simply because I do not want to slit my own throat.

1. NO I don't think so. But it's all we've heard since he was nominated. ESPECIALLY IN CHICAGO. It's getting very stale. I would say, and he hasn't won yet, but even I have to acknowledge the inevitable.

2. You've voted in what, less than a handful of presidential election if that many. So you not voting for a rep isn't really much of trend yet.

3. You've probably put more thought into your vote than this woman has since the first time she voted.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Oh look, Gepap still has the insult skills of a three year old.

And what is sad is that you are even more pathetic

[Patroklos]

I rest my case.

[GePap]

Originally posted by rah

3. You've probably put more thought into your vote than this woman has since the first time she voted.

Sorry, but what in the hell makes you say that?

Cause you think she has always voted Democratic? What evidence do you have, that she voted for FDR? Hello, the man got re-elected three times - clearly a lot of people voted for him all the time. Do you have any proof that she never voted for a Republican?

More importantly, even if you can somehow claim she always voted Democratic, do you have any evidence that her votes were not driven by rational self-interest, political agreement, or a dozen different things?

Here you are talking about bias, and yet a central part of your "argument" must be based on some bias because it surely has no evidence behind it.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by GePap
And what is sad is that you are even more pathetic

Dude, your comeback did indeed suck. That was so childish. You (hell, every poster) usually are better than that.