Daughter of slave votes for Obama

[Riesstiu IV]

Originally posted by rah
My father in law used to be the biggest racist I ever met. He had all sorts of reasons that justified it in his own mind. He always spewed out all of his personal experiences that he thought gave him the right to be as he was. Racism is never understandable.

Racism can be justified. I'm not talking about petty personal experiences like some black guy giving you the stink eye or something. I'm saying that if, for 2/3 of their life, you were regarded as a second class citizen, politically disenfranchised, and segregated from your fellow citizens because of your skin color... well that would make you a racist.

Alternatively, when I was a kid one of my neighbors was an elderly vet who was incredible racists towards the Japanese because he spent to majority of the war in a POW camp. I could never understand what he went through during the war. Yeah, racism isn't a good thing but I can understand why people are racist.

[Kidlicious]

It does show the extemism in the position though, that black people are racist because they don't trust white people as much as blacks. He can't understand that even confronted with a black person who's parent was a slave.

[Dinner]

I had one of those funny old coots living on my block too. He was a WW2 vet who would say all sorts of strange racist crap against Asians but oddly he was married to a Japanese woman. Even as a kid I thought it was weird.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Winston
Let's hope she doesn't vote Democrat again in 2012.

Man, I love compassionate conservatives.

What a douchebag you are.

[Kidlicious]

A lot of blacks think that a black president will be better than all the white presidents that we've had because he's black, that he's going to stand up to the man or something. That's why they really support Obama.

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I would say that she's racist because she's voting for him since he's black

A point which everyone should realize from reading the article, but on the eve of 2008 election Democratic partisans have brainwashed themselves to the point of celebrating discrimination while, at the same time, using the label "racism" so arbitrarily to white people who disagree with them that it doesn't really mean anything anymore.

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It's not racist if black people do it

well, obviously y'all will turn ignorant racism into a good thing by attacking rah instead of what he said

Racism can be justified because blah blah vague white guilt

You made more sense when you were ranting about Jewish conspiracies.

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Originally posted by Asher
What a douchebag you are.

Seriously though, why aren't you banned? Half of your posts are overt "lol i'm better than you, you're stupid and shag sheep, **** you"s these days (dialogue with Oerdin in this thread is a good example).

Are you our new administrator? O_o

DanSed

[rah]

Ok, oh great thinkers. At what point is racism acceptable. Doing the math here. The woman was born in 1899 or so. While here father was born into slavery, he was not a slave at the time and she was not either. While she has lived (even conservatively 2/3 of her life under segragation, she has lived 1/3 of it during a more enlightened period. (even as to the point of the article, that even a black man is running for president) If this women is racist and passing her belief to the next generation, this is not acceptable to me.
I saw the racism of the previous generation and promised that I wouldn't pass it on. While I'll admit that while my father did a pretty good job, he wasn't perfect. You are the role model for your children. If they see you acting racist, they will think it's ok.

And yes, my first post was more joking while trying to make the point that I don't really think that since she's voting for Obama is anything big since she's voted consistently democrat all of her live. If it was hillary she'd still be voting for her and we'd be hearing that she's thrilled to be voting for a woman. But you guys are sooooo defensive.

Heck even I voted for Clinton on his second term. (of course some may say that this didn't count as voting for a dem since he was really a republican. )

[Asher]

Originally posted by VJ

Seriously though, why aren't you banned? Half of your posts are overt "lol i'm better than you, you're stupid and shag sheep, **** you"s these days.

Are you our new administrator? O_o

You are asking too many questions. That is dangerous...

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Originally posted by Asher

You are asking too many questions. That is dangerous...

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And no, I don't think the woman is a racist that taught her kids to be also. (at least I hope not)

And unlike others, I hope she's voting in 2012 but has finally seen the light by then. Not THAT LIGHT.

[Riesstiu IV]

Originally posted by VJ
You made more sense when you were ranting about Jewish conspiracies.

Please point out where in my post I justify "white guilt"? Did you miss the second part where I said where I understood why an elderly white veteran was racist against Japanese?

All I tried to convey was I could understand why some people can be racist.

[MikeH]

Originally posted by rah
I would say that she's racist because she's voting for him since he's black, but since she has voted consistently democratic for the last 70 years it's obvious that she doesn't put a lot of actual thought into her selection process.

Any black person voting republican at any point in the last 70 years would have been voting against their best interests so she has voted sensibly.

Discuss.

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Originally posted by Riesstiu IV
Please point out where in my post I justify "white guilt"? Did you miss the second part where I said where I understood why an elderly white veteran was racist against Japanese?

White guilt is the only rationalization I can come up for a white person celebrating black racism.

All I tried to convey was I could understand why some people can be racist.

you're redefining your thesis.

Racism can be justified. I'm not talking about petty personal experiences like some black guy giving you the stink eye or something. I'm saying that if, for 2/3 of their life, you were regarded as a second class citizen, politically disenfranchised, and segregated from your fellow citizens because of your skin color... well that would make you a racist.

Alternatively, when I was a kid one of my neighbors was an elderly vet who was incredible racists towards the Japanese because he spent to majority of the war in a POW camp. I could never understand what he went through during the war. Yeah, racism isn't a good thing but I can understand why people are racist.

My message was that ignorant and counter-productive discrimination based on race (aka racism) is never justified. You can understand it, in the same way you can understand Stalin: by understanding the motivations, fears and the background of the person who acts irrationally.

[GePap]

Originally posted by rah
Ok, oh great thinkers. At what point is racism acceptable. Doing the math here. The woman was born in 1899 or so. While here father was born into slavery, he was not a slave at the time and she was not either. While she has lived (even conservatively 2/3 of her life under segragation, she has lived 1/3 of it during a more enlightened period. (even as to the point of the article, that even a black man is running for president) If this women is racist and passing her belief to the next generation, this is not acceptable to me.
I saw the racism of the previous generation and promised that I wouldn't pass it on. While I'll admit that while my father did a pretty good job, he wasn't perfect. You are the role model for your children. If they see you acting racist, they will think it's ok.

The definition of racism you are using is simplistic at best.

Most people marry individuals of their own race - is this an inherent sign of a racial bias when people chose mates? Yes. Is all racial bias equivalent? NO.

Racism as a negative force in society would be to say that a candidate is inherently unqualified to do something or be smething because of race. To have two individuals you think are qualified to lead and then chose because you have a preference for one race over the other is NOT the same thing, because in the end some form of bias has to come in when chosing.