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  • #91
    Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


    "church" in the small sense, not the large sense. I certainly didn't mean to imply that the United Church of Christ is all like Rev. Wright. That is one of the reasons that makes me even more suspicious as to why Obama stayed there. Rev. Wright is nowhere near to the teachings of Christ, so why didn't Obama leave, and why did he choose to join that church in the first place?
    Maybe the topics which some people find objectionable didn't come up very often in his sermons. Rev. Wright turned the Trinity United Church of Christ into a mega-church, with a membership of 8500. At the bottom of the Wikipedia articleon him you can find a partial listing of his works:
    Wright, Jeremiah A. Jr. and Jini Kilgore Ross, What Makes You So Strong?: Sermons of Joy and Strength from Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., Judson Press, November 1993, ISBN 978-0817011987
    Wright, Jeremiah A. Jr. and Colleen Birchett, Africans Who Shaped Our Faith (Student Guide), Urban Ministries, Inc., May 1995, ISBN 978-0940955295
    Wright, Jeremiah A. Jr. and Jini Kilgore Ross, Good News!: Sermons of Hope for Today's Families, Judson Press, December 1995, ISBN 978-0817012366
    William J. Key, Robert Johnson Smith, Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. and Robert Johnson-Smith, From One Brother to Another: Voices of African American Men, Judson Press, October 1996, ISBN 978-0817012502
    Jawanza Kunjufu and Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Jr., Adam! Where Are You?: Why Most Black Men Don't Go to Church, African American Images, June 1997, ISBN 978-0913543436 (also African American Images, 1994, ISBN B000T6LXPQ)
    Frank Madison Reid, III, Jeremiah Wright Jr. and Colleen Birchett, When Black Men Stand Up for God: Reflections on the Million Man March, African American Images, December 1997, ISBN 978-0913543481
    Wright, Jeremiah A. Jr., What Can Happen When We Pray: A Daily Devotional, Augsburg Fortress Publishers, June 2002, ISBN 978-0806634067
    Wright, Jeremiah A. Jr., From One Brother To Another, Volume 2: Voices of African American Men , Judson Press, January 2003, ISBN 978-0817013622
    Iva E. Carruthers (Editor), Frederick D. Haynes III (Editor), Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. (Editor), Blow the Trumpet in Zion!: Global Vision and Action for the 21st Century Black Church, Augsburg Fortress Publishers, January 2005, ISBN 978-0800637125
    Ernest R. Flores and Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., Tempted to Leave the Cross: Renewing the Call to Discipleship, Judson Press, November 2007, ISBN 978-0817015244
    Wright, Jeremiah A, Jr. (2004), "Doing black theology in the black church", p 13-23, 213-214. In Linda E. Thomas (Ed.), Living Stones in the Household of God: The Legacy and Future of Black Theology, Minneapolis: Fortress. ISBN 0-8006-3627-9
    Wright, Jeremiah. "Here I am, send me". In Awakened to a calling: reflections on the vocation of ministry, Ann M. Svennungsen and Melissa Wiginton (Eds.), Nashville: Abingdon Press, c2005. ISBN 0687053900
    Wright, Jeremiah. "In the Lord's house, on the Lord's day". In Awakened to a calling: reflections on the vocation of ministry, Ann M. Svennungsen and Melissa Wiginton (Eds.), Nashville: Abingdon Press, c2005. ISBN 0687053900
    Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr., "Music as Cultural Expression in Black Church Theology and Worship," Journal of Black Sacred Music 3, 1 (1) (Spring 1989).

    Take a look at that list. How much do you find objectionable? Maybe there was a lot more to Jeremiah Wright than you think.

    Anyway, I find it "enlightening" that a serial bigot like Pat Robertson can repeatedly condemn the US and not only get away with it, but still retain enough power that Republican candidates beat a path to his doorway every election. Jeremiah Wright does the same thing and he's forced to retire. Frankly there's a considerable amount of truth in Rev. Wright's criticism. Undoubtably our history of repeated heavy handed manipulation of Middle Eastern politics did have something to do with bin Laden's decision to stage the 9/11 attacks. Pat Robertson's criticisms though are generally mean-spirited, bigoted and ignorant. Yet strangely associating with him is not seen as embarassing.

    You have to remember that most Catholics are baptised Catholic, whereas I am not a baptised Catholic, but rather a baptised Anglican.
    If your Anglican baptism poses such a problem could you not have asked for a re-baptism? Surely the Roman Catholic Church provides for the baptism of an adult.



    Nope, not at all, but why did it take him 20 years to do so? It's not like Rev. Wright just started preaching.
    See above.
    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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    • #92
      Oh, and while we're on the subject of Pat Robertson, I think you'll be interested to see what his group's up to recently:
      Attached Files
      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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      • #93
        Are they praying for the markets to turn around?

        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • #94
          You're fixation on Texas is amusing.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #95
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            You're fixation on Texas is amusing.
            It's like a freakshow, you know it's wrong to stare, but you can't look away.
            You've just proven signature advertising works!

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            • #96
              Originally posted by SlowwHand
              You're fixation on Texas is amusing.
              Who'se fixation?
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
              Ultima Ratio Regum

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              • #97
                Yours, for one.
                Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                • #98
                  I don't understand why you people don't understand, that we really don't care what you think. We may find it amusing, at best.
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by SlowwHand
                    Yours, for one.
                    And yet I haven't said a single thing about Texas in this entire thread.
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • Yours in any thread. Are you saying you don't run your mouth? Do you want me to rub your nose in it?
                      I would, but I don't give that much of a ****.
                      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                      • Originally posted by SlowwHand
                        Yours in any thread. Are you saying you don't run your mouth? Do you want me to rub your nose in it?
                        I would, but I don't give that much of a ****.
                        You would what, son? I'm not embarrassed of anything I've ever said on here. I'm sure you're not either, but that's more a function of your lack of self-awareness than the quality of the crap you post.

                        But you're more than welcome to try to dredge through my posts. Have fun. I would say you might learn something, but most of it's a bit over your head.

                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • I'm not your son, motherfuker, and like I said, I don't care what you think.
                          Over and out.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • It's a term of endearment for those I tutor.

                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
                            Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                              "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                              He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                              • I didn't know you were gay, Slowwy. Thanks, but no thanks.



                                EDIT: a bit embarrassed by what you wanted me to do to you? That's okay, the truth had to come out some time.
                                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                                Killing it is the new killing it
                                Ultima Ratio Regum

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