Race may account for 6 pts. in election

[MrFun]

Originally posted by David Floyd
No, history doesn't matter.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Imran wants to come and disagree with che on things about this election (for instance, I think the Senator is the Dem nominee because of his race, not in spite of it), but then David Floyd shows up and Imran does not want to associated with his arguments.

It's like that episode of South Park with the debate on the city flag.

[Lancer]

Originally posted by Theben



I still like you, Lancer, but you're a dope.

I like you too Theben, but still I've got a nice big stone for your glass house.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Theben

Can you point out where any black on white violence or racism was systematic and/or institutionalized? Can you?

No, he can't!


Theben's BAMS

[Kidlicious]

Re: Afirmative Action

Originally posted by David Floyd
To combat past discrimination with more discrimination, of course.

More specifically to give minorities a more fair and equal part in society. It made society more democratic.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I don't want to be associated with the whole slavery is over and everyone is legally equal so its all Ok now Pollyanna crap.

Yeah, I guess it's hard for you to fit more crap in, isn't it Imran?

[Alinestra Covelia]

Originally posted by DaShi
It's like that episode of South Park with the debate on the city flag.

"But one of the lynchers is black, so that makes it okay!"

[Patroklos]

I assume Obama's priest was ostracized not only by Obama but by his community, right?

Are you serious? His community loves him all the more for it.

For this election, the numbers are 90%/10% in favor of Obama, so the effect isn't anywhere near as big as dumbasses would have it.

Except that you are ignoring increased expected turnout. Not that that was unexpected seeing as including it destroys your farce of a point.

That's fine. I'm not saying if you don't vote for Obama you are a racist.

Che and Kid are. This thread does not exist in a vacuum.

[Theben]

I doubt Che is, since he would be by extension calling himself a racist.
EDIT: I doubt either che or Kid are. Happy?

I like you too Theben, but still I've got a nice big stone for your glass house.

Is it 10,000 years old?

Theben's BAMS

Do you know what BAM means? Thanks for the "help", but go help someone else.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Theben
I doubt Che is, since he would be by extension calling himself a racist.

You think I am?

[rah]

My father in law (while he was alive) was a high muck muck in the Chicago fire departement. He was a dedicated democrat and part of the machine. But he never ever voted for any blacks. He did pass away a few years ago and let's hope that kind of thinking is passing into History as the older generations die out.

I could accuse blacks of being racists when they voted for Jessie Jackson because he was a tool, but not as much for voting for Obama.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Are you serious? His community loves him all the more for it.

There is still quite a lot of anger in the Black community, both over past injustices that have not been corrected, i.e, Jim Crow law, as well as current, on going injustice. Although Rev. Wright does fall prey to some conspiracy theories, much of what he says is accurate. He speaks truth to power.

Except that you are ignoring increased expected turnout. Not that that was unexpected seeing as including it destroys your farce of a point.

So what does the expected increased turnout among whites mean? Turnout is expected to be higher among all groups. That means it can be factored out. Your point would only have any validity of expected turnout among whites and other "races" was expected to be the same.

Che and Kid are. This thread does not exist in a vacuum.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm voting for a white man for President this election, Brian Moore. Kid, presumably, can defend himself.

[Kidlicious]

I haven't decided for sure how I will vote. If I vote for Obama it will be to keep the republicans from office. I'm more inclined to do that, however it's not because I believe it's racist not to vote for Obama. Jeez, do people actually believe Patti's hacks?

[chequita guevara]

No, I don't think anyone does. I think they just like seeing the zings.

I just didn't want to speak for you.

[Kidlicious]

Kay