Race may account for 6 pts. in election

[Theben]

Originally posted by Lancer
However with the sexism of the leftist media the women are catching up fast.

Give me a break. Yeah there's sexism on the left but the right-wing crying about it is like a serial killer being upset that somebody hurt his feelings.

[BeBMan]

Racism is only in Yuurp.

[David Floyd]

Well, Theben, if the fact that white people won't vote for Obama because he is black justifies Affirmitive Action, then the fact that black people tend to only vote for black candidates justifies AA for whites. Right?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Theben
They based this argument soley on the "fact" that there's no more or little racism in this country... the poll shows otherwise.

I thought it was based on how stupid it is to combat racial discrimination with yet more racial discrimination.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by David Floyd
Well, Theben, if the fact that white people won't vote for Obama because he is black justifies Affirmitive Action, then the fact that black people tend to only vote for black candidates justifies AA for whites. Right?

Sigh. The point is that you can't compare whites and blacks in that way. There's far too much history of oppression and disenfranchisement to argue that blacks are racist for voting for Obama because he is black.

[David Floyd]

No, history doesn't matter. If blacks are voting for Obama because he's black - or, more to the point, voting against McCain because he's white - that's racist, regardless of slavery or Jim Crow or anything else.

[DaShi]

Fine, then dismiss history. I don't have argue with you then. But one of the reasons that race relations in America is so poor today is that too many honkies think that the slavery issue is the past and that everything is equal now.

[David Floyd]

Slavery is in the past. Everyone is legally equal now. I'm sorry if some people don't see past those two facts. I'm also sorry some people don't understand that it was black people in Africa who collaberated and cooperated with the slave trade in the first place. I'm also sorry if some people don't understand that, on balance, black people are probably better off economically, health-wise, etc., than they would be had their ancestors never been brought to the US.

Slavery wasn't OK, but at the same time, it wasn't just white people who were involved with it, and black people today do reap some benefits because of slavery. It isn't as simple as you are making it out to be.

And no, you don't have to argue with me if you don't want to.

[DaShi]

It's ok. You've proven my point.

[David Floyd]

If you say so.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Lancer
Colon, yup, with the way the Obama campaign picks on the elderly their ageism will play a factor in McCain's election. Hell, if the stategists of Obama keep up the assault on various groups in the population repugs could reelect Bush soon.

Please provide evidence of these attacks.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by David Floyd
No, history doesn't matter.

History only doesn't matter in the minds of those who benefit from history. You know, those born on third base thinking they hit a triple. Everyone else knows better.

[David Floyd]

I'm part Irish. Yet, the Irish Potato Famine doesn't mean that I have a right to hate the English. History is irrelevant in that type of situation.

[Agathon]

Mel Brooks is directing this election.

[Darius871]

No way Mel Brooks was ever this funny.