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  • Breaking Science - Nobel Material !!!

    At least it has potential for an Ignobel prize

    Next time you are lost, just look at the cows



    Cows seem to know which way is north

    By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID – 18 hours ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Talk about animal magnetism, cows seem to have a built-in compass. No bull: Somehow, cattle seem to know how to find north and south, say researchers who studied satellite photos of thousands of cows around the world.

    Most cattle that were grazing or resting tended to align their bodies in a north-south direction, a team of German and Czech researchers reports in Tuesday's issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    And the finding held true regardless of what continent the cattle were on, according to the study led by Hynek Burda and Sabine Begall of the faculty of biology at the University of Duisburg-Essen in Germany.

    "The magnetic field of the Earth has to be considered as a factor," the scientists said.

    This challenges scientists to find out why and how these animals align to the magnetic field, Begall said in an interview via e-mail.

    "Of course, the question arises whether humans show also such a spontaneous behavior," she said, adding, what "consequences does it have for their health."

    The study sent Tina Hinchley, who with her husband Duane operates a dairy farm in Cambridge, Wis., to take a new look at an aerial photo taken of their farm a few years ago.

    "The cows that were in the pasture were all over the place ... about two-thirds were north-south," Hinchley said.

    Two-thirds is close to what the researchers found in their look at 8,510 cattle in 308 pastures. In the study, 60 percent to 70 percent of cattle were oriented north-south, which Begall termed a "highly significant deviation from random distribution."

    Hinchley stressed that one factor that must be considered is cow comfort.

    "They don't like to get hot. Their body temperature is 102, and they are wearing black leather jackets, literally! If turning north-south would keep them cooler, they would stand that way."

    The research team noted that in very windy conditions cattle tend to face the wind, and have been known to seek out the sun on cold days. But they said they were able to discount weather effects in the study by analyzing clues such as the position of the sun based on shadows.

    "This is a surprising discovery," said Kenneth J. Lohmann of the biology department at the University of North Carolina. "Nothing like this has been observed before in cattle or in any large animal."

    However Lohmann, who was not part of the research team, cautioned that "the study is based entirely on correlations. To demonstrate conclusively that cattle have a magnetic sense, some kind of experimental manipulation will eventually be needed."

    Joseph L. Kirschvink of the California Institute of Technology said he wondered if fences around the pastures could affect cattle orientation.

    Passive alignment of animals to magnetic fields has been reported in honeybees and termites, he noted. It requires some type of special sensory organ to detect the magnetic field.

    "If they have evidence suggesting that mammals are using magnetic fields to orient their movements, this is very cool," said Mark A. Willis, an associate professor of biomedical sciences at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland.

    Willis, who was not part of the research team, added, "We have only in the last few years begun to understand the mechanisms underlying magnetic field orientation in birds and other smaller animals."

    Indeed, it's small animals that led to this study, Begall explained. They were researching the magnetic field effect on African mole-rats.

    "At one point last year the question came up whether large animals could also sense the Earth's magnetic field or not. But of course, it is difficult, or maybe impossible, to do these studies in the lab," she said. "So, the idea arose to look for other large mammals like cattle, and Hynek Burda was fascinated when he recognized that cattle could be found on Google Earth satellite images."

    With satellite images they could tell the north-south orientation of the animals, but not whether an individual cow was facing north or south. You have to get closer to tell which end is which.

    Now the researchers are moving on to study sheep, goats, horses, wild boar and some further deer species, Begall added.

    The current study said red and roe deer also were found to orient in a north-south direction when grazing and resting, but unlike the worldwide cattle study, the deer portion was limited to the Czech Republic.
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    There are actually a lot of creatures that seem to be able to align to the magnetic poles. No, I am not aware of any mechanism, and yeah, this does seem like something that could be us overthinking something.

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    • #3
      Steak knowing where to go
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      • #4
        Cows are not fooling me.

        I blame Gary Larson for this latest hoax of theirs.

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        • #5
          Umm......

          Given that grazing most often happens during the day, won't the cows know which way is which simply by the direction of something like the sun?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aneeshm
            Umm......

            Given that grazing most often happens during the day, won't the cows know which way is which simply by the direction of something like the sun?
            Last I checked, the sun was placed somewhere around equator, not at the north pole
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            • #7
              I honestly think this study is crock... their causality is illogical, for example. "Cooling"?? It would be cooler to face east/west than north-south; less surface area directly in the sun (on average over all seasons). In the summer specifically (in areas where only summer is hot), facing northeast/southwest (or, in general, facing the sun directly) makes the most sense.

              It sounds to me like a 'study' that was easy to publish and solid enough to pass first muster (peer review), but is really meaningless; it's far more likely correlation, something like "people usually make hills face a certain way, and that causes cows to go north/south", or something else.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BlackCat
                Last I checked, the sun was placed somewhere around equator, not at the north pole
                And it rises quite reliably in the east. Not that I think cows actually knowingly align themselves in such a way, but they theoretically could.
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                • #9
                  It's pretty easy actually to figure out where north is if you can see the sun. If you face the sun at noon, you will be facing due south in the northern hemisphere above the tropics, and due north in the southern hemisphere, below the tropics.

                  If it's before noon, the sun will be SE, if it's after noon, the sun will be SW.

                  It's a bit more complicated in the tropics, but the same idea is there. If you can figure out an arc, you can even tell time with the sun.
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                  • #10
                    Cows can tell the time?
                    You just wasted six ... no, seven ... seconds of your life reading this sentence.

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                    • #11
                      Yes. If you ever stop to observe, they moo at 10 minute intervals within an accuracy of +/- 5 seconds. Now if Google Earth came with sound, it'd be that much more evident.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Winston
                        Yes. If you ever stop to observe, they moo at 10 minute intervals within an accuracy of +/- 5 seconds. Now if Google Earth came with sound, it'd be that much more evident.
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                        • #13
                          I've been able to find magnetic north for over a year now without a compass. I can personally attest to the validity of these findings. I read about this today in a local free daily and kept the article to show friends and family that I really am onto something regarding this. No one seems to really give a **** about it when I talk about it. I doubt the article will change that but I have to rub their noses in it anyway.

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                          • #14
                            I only want Southern facing Steak. How can I tell the difference in whether my steak came from a north facing cow or a South facing cow?

                            This is really concerning...
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                            • #15
                              For those of you who dont know, and apparently some here dont, PNAS is one of the top tier of journals along with Nature, Science, Cell, etc. Its a club journal, for sure, but a club of many of the best scientists in the world.
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