It's war. Part II

[FrostyBoy]

That's why I say, communism will not come as a revolution, it will come as slow stages of progress.

The Internet has greatly globalised us, surely, one day "Internet Money" will become more valuable than "real" money, thus making sense to have a single currency for the entire world.

Internet money would be awesome. I hope they call it Buckazoids! No more of that useless paper, plastic and metal, what a waste of resources and wallet space. cards is where its at now, but Internet money (lets call it buckazoids, so that we can enforce the idea, I want to live in a world where my money is called buckazoids, who wouldn't!?) will soon remove cards from the thrown.

Then, no matter where I go, my buckazoids are worth the same, if I want to buy something, I must actually do it via the internet, but I can still do that at the market, for example, I go to the mall, I see something I like, I go to the counter, I place my hand on the machine, which identifies me, logs me into my account, deducts the buckazoids from my account and then logs out, and off I go! Hell, don't even need a counter, just connect the product directly to the internet! No more queues!

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras


The ceasefire treaty was violated by separatists - who were supposed to be silenced by YOUR peace keepers.

Source?
You suppose Osetians should have just relax and and let Georgian artillery to kill them?
Wake up Neo, Saak was preparing for this war since he took the power. Georgia increased its military budget 30 times within 4 years.
South Osetian provoking a war with Georgia is just an insanity. What for they needed this war? To conquer Georgia? To destroy Tbilisi? Wake up once again South Osetian total population is 70 000, it's army has 3000 soldiers, while Georgians had 35000-37000 professional soldiers trained by Americans and now mobilizing another 100 000 soldiers, more than entire population of South Osetia.
If Osetians started this war then why it is Osetian capital now lay in ruins, not Georgian?

The 2000 killed is a figure pulled out of some Lubyanka disinfo deparment Lieutenants arse and not backed up by anything.

Do you deny that Tskhinvaly is destroyed by Gergian artillery and Grads?
Do you think that Georgians hited only military targets in the city with their Grads?
Do you think Georgian Grads have precision munitions?

If yes, then we have nothing to discuss, since you are living in your own world in a galaxy far far away from this reality.
If no, then why do you think a 2 000 killed civilians is an exaggerated figure for a city that have been bombed to ruins before its inhabitants had any chance to flee?

Why you consider Soviets forces in Vilnus that suppressed riot and killed a dozen of civilians to be the greatest demons, while Georgian troops that bombarded the city with heavy weaponry and killed hundreds of times more civilians to be a victims? Why you consider people who are trying to save civilians from genocide to be devils and agressors?

Let me guess, because they are Russians.
That make you a nazi. Your nazi ancestors could be proud of you now. Your anscesters did served in SS, right?

p.s. You do have a SS unform in your wardrobe, don't ya?

[FrostyBoy]

Don't be an idiot, it doesn't make anyone a Nazi. Holy ****...

[Propaganda]

Anyway, in tone with parts of this thread, I can see where Saras is coming from. In my opinion, all of the nationalities within their respective republics in the Soviet Union should have learned their identifying language first(their republic-level government language), while learning Russian as a second language and a third as a mandatory elective, as in Stalin's time. The wide-ranging policy of Russification, especially during the Brezhnev years, wasn't warranted, and has created the animosity we see in the former Soviet space, and an example in this war.

[Dry]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Yes, but tell me how may times in history has the power that has been completley outmatched by a factor of a douzen to one been the agressor?

Happens all the time, when small country is played by the AI and big one by the human player.
Stupid AI!

[Propaganda]

Originally posted by Sandman


I reckon the Chinese are more secure in themselves than Russia, so they can aggressively import Western technology and ideas without feeling bad. For the Soviet Union to 'do a China' it would have to accept that it was behind the West technologically.

That's where I think glasnost could have been beneficial.

[FrostyBoy]

I have been to China quite a few times, they do have a glasnost kind of life in some parts, especially Shanghai and Hong Kong, I guess the government is opening up to the ideas of freedom, but it must do so slowly.

Or maybe they finally figured out how America does it. Make them THINK they have freedom.

[Saras]

Originally posted by Serb
Your nazi ancestors could be proud of you now. Your anscesters did served in SS, right?

p.s. You do have a SS unform in your wardrobe, don't ya?

Chill.

[Serb]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
Don't be an idiot, it doesn't make anyone a Nazi. Holy ****...

Oh really? Just look at him!
This is Saras prasing Georgian troops killing Osetian civilians.

[Serb]

Looks pretty much like a nazi to me.

[ColdPhoenix]

Originally posted by Serb

Let me guess, because they are Russians.
That make you a nazi. Your nazi ancestors could be proud of you now. Your anscesters did served in SS, right?

p.s. You do have a SS unform in your wardrobe, don't ya?

I don't know enough about the conflict to have come to an opinion but doesn't that mean you've lost the argument?!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

[Serb]

Originally posted by Saras


Chill.

Then stop lying and comeback to reality. Face the facts and stop your anti-Russian paranoiadal lies.

Then I'll chill.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Yes, but tell me how may times in history has the power that has been completley outmatched by a factor of a douzen to one been the agressor?

not many times, proving that generally countries are run by relatively smart people.

still, it seems to me that the georgians started this...

[Propaganda]

Originally posted by FrostyBoy
That's why I say, communism will not come as a revolution, it will come as slow stages of progress.

The Internet has greatly globalised us, surely, one day "Internet Money" will become more valuable than "real" money, thus making sense to have a single currency for the entire world.

Internet money would be awesome. I hope they call it Buckazoids! No more of that useless paper, plastic and metal, what a waste of resources and wallet space. cards is where its at now, but Internet money (lets call it buckazoids, so that we can enforce the idea, I want to live in a world where my money is called buckazoids, who wouldn't!?) will soon remove cards from the thrown.

Then, no matter where I go, my buckazoids are worth the same, if I want to buy something, I must actually do it via the internet, but I can still do that at the market, for example, I go to the mall, I see something I like, I go to the counter, I place my hand on the machine, which identifies me, logs me into my account, deducts the buckazoids from my account and then logs out, and off I go! Hell, don't even need a counter, just connect the product directly to the internet! No more queues!

Surely, it will come by revolution. Even if capital is moving us to a form of socialism, the capitalist will monopolize the progress to protect his own interests. Understandably, the capitalist will try to adjust, either by taxation of the working population to redistribute wealth or by debt accumulation. What the capitalist sees, however, is his immediate interests. As he moves into more lucrative markets, the labor in his own country, those who buy his products, will be left unemployed and will have no value for him anymore but what he doesn't foresee is that there is longer anyone in the developed world that can buy his products, contrary to his own goal of making profit, by lowering costs.

The capitalist will attempt to operate at an advantage, even if it is not in his future interests, and that will be his downfall. Any form of imperialism, taxation or debt accumulation in such circumstances will mostly likely accelerate collapse.

[Serb]

Originally posted by ColdPhoenix


I don't know enough about the conflict to have come to an opinion but doesn't that mean you've lost the argument?!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Nope. My opponet denies facts. I can't argue with a man who seriously believes that Tskhivaly is not destroyed and there are no victims of Georgian bombardment of the city. No matter what link we give him, no matter what photo he see, there is only one answer: "blah-blah-blah it's all Russian propaganda made up at Lubyanka (ex-KGB main office)".
He calls the force that arrived to stop the bloodbath agressor and true agressors who started this he portrays as victims. He calls for support of butchers who massacred civilians and turned a peacefull city into the ruins.
So hell yeah, Saras is a holocoust denier and a NAZI.


p.s. Your link to Godwin's law doesn't work. But I got the message.