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Wall-E Deserves Its Own Thread. Best movie of the decade? Mayhaps.
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Originally posted by Swissy
The day camp's policy is to post the movie the week before, so parents can comment. There is one parent who always questions every non-G movie. Funny thing is her son, who is seven years old, was once heard on a field trip commenting on rather a hot looking young lady who walked by the group; " Whoa baby, I'd sure like to have some of that action."
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- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Just got back from it. I can honestly say that this is the first movie in a long time that impressed me. Others have been good, most watchable or below, but Wall-E was impressive on every level...visuals, storytelling with minimal dialog, and I'd even say acting. Pixar's puppeteers outdid themselves on this one and gave the characters-robots, even-enough power to emote to actually connect with the audience. It's easily Pixar's best movie to date.
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I am with Koyaanisqatsi and Imran, this was a very good movie, probably Pixar's best in terms of the art of film making.
I also am not surprised with Swissy's post. I don't think its' really a kids movie, even if the second half is pretty formulaic: even then the movie has bite.
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
Loved The Incredibles.
Finding Nemo was good.
Cars was OK, not great.
I really enjoyed Monsters Inc.
Ratatouille was very good.
I've never actually saw Toy Story, toy Story 2, or A Bug's Life. I think that's all of them.
WALL-E looks like it's well worth seeing, but has to wait in line behind Iron Man on the priority list.
Incredibles was good.
I did not like Finding Nemo in the theater. But, as my kids have made me watch it about a hundred times, I've come to tolerate it now.
Cars...SUCKS. But then, so does NASCAR, so...I do not allow the kids to watch that one upstairs.
Did not care for Monsters Inc. neither did the kids.
Ratatouille, I'm more or less ambivalent about. My 6 year old likes it.
Toy Story/2 were clever at the time. I don't care to watch them. My oldest grew out of them at about 7. Unfortunately, now his younger brother is entranced by them. Praying the DVD breaks before their sister discovers it and I have to put up with them for another 5 years.
As for WALL-E. My in-laws are taking our 6 year old for his birthday so I don't have to see it till it's on dvd.
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OK, I've seen it. It's overrated. I'm just going to throw a handful of negative points out there
The use of live-action humans followed by the CGI humans is extremely jarring at first - obviously, there's some design reason to do that, but it doesn't justify the oddity of the whole thing, especially when the CGI captain is watching a live-action video of the Buy and Large guy.
The CGI people on the Axiom, I think, also made the soapboxing too overbearing. I don't think I really need to elaborate on this point. Also, using fat people as an acceptable target crutch is pretty cheap. I'd expect a little bit better.
Giving robots a love story is also a weak choice. WALL-E was much more interesting when he was running through his daily routine, working at his futile directive but satisfying the eccentricities he acquired over the centuries. But by the later parts of the movie, WALL-E was no more a robot than Remy was a rat or the talking cars were cars. You could have just as easily made him be a talking rat or toaster or candelabra.
I'm not particularly interested in getting into a flamewar over this, and I'm sure I could have written some of the criticism better, but this is just an internet post. Take what you will from it.
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Wait... why can't robots fall in love? I thought that was a great part of the movie. The robots were acting more human than most humans in other movies. It also brings up the question of what is human, which is always fascinating with it comes to AIs and robotics.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Robots falling in love is goofy because of the obvious silly biology of it. It might have been less jarring in a movie that didn't look so damn realistic for the first hour.
I'm not buying it as an exploration of the concept of sentience or whatever. WALL-E is just another character in a long line of Pixar's nonhuman-in-name-only protagonists.
I should make it clear that WALL-E is certainly a pretty good movie, and well worth watching, but it's not the best film of the decade (that would be Pan's Labyrinth) and it's not even the best Pixar film of the decade (that would be Ratatouille.)
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