Macedonia

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Dutch and German
Serbian and Croatian
Russian and Belorussian

i'm not a language expert but there are a lot to be said about the "Macedonian language" starting for the fact that there extremely little works written in it, especially prior to 20th century

[MarkG]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: wow arguments!

Originally posted by LordShiva
Like when Bush says that teh war against terror is aimed at those who don't believe in human rights, etc., it's because we aren't convinced that terrorists are bad and so he's trying to insult them

hmm, no, that happens because bush thinks that when you state the obvious you are making an argument.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by MarkG
i'm not a linguage expert but there are a lot to be said about the "Macedonian language" starting for the fact that there extremely little works written in it, especially prior to 20th century

And there are no works written in Greek pripor to the 15th century BC. And there are works written in Slovenian prior to the 10 th century AD? Also just because a language is seldomly written down that dosen't make the language non-existant or fake, I mena just look at how widespread latin was and how it was prefered as the language of the educated and how little was written in other languages for much of the middle ages.


Are we going to start judging languages worthy or unworthy based on when they got writting.

[Heraclitus]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: wow arguments!

Originally posted by MarkG
hmm, no, that happens because bush thinks that when you state the obvious you are making an argument.

Logical fallancy

Do you know Reductio ad Hitlerum? Well what you just used was a Reductio ad Bushum.


Just because Bush does or usese something does not mean that the action or policy in question is too stupid for someone else to use.

[Will9]

Re: Re: see what happens when you start with specifics?

Originally posted by Heraclitus

Alexander was Macedonian, and some consider the Macedonians where hellenised Thracians, people like William Mitchell Ramsay.

The key word there is some. The vast majority of scholars agree that the ancient Macedonians were Greek.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Are we going to start judging languages worthy or unworthy based on when they got writting.

first of all, thanks for removing the "racist" part

yes, we are going to judge a language by whether or not any literature exists in it, especially when there is a claim that the civilization using this language is one of the corner stones of european civilization

[Heraclitus]

OMG I made emperor trolling MarkG

[Heraclitus]

Re: Re: Re: see what happens when you start with specifics?

Originally posted by Will


The key word there is some. The vast majority of scholars agree that the ancient Macedonians were Greek.

Argumentum ad populum

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
OMG I made emperor trolling MarkG

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by MarkG
first of all, thanks for removing the "racist" part

yes, we are going to judge a language by whether or not any literature exists in it, especially when there is a claim that the civilization using this language is one of the corner stones of european civilization

Now I'm going to throw back the racist back in.


Are you saying afircan iliterate socieites have less right to exist than literate European societies.


Because this is what is implied that if a society does not have a written language then it isn't as developed as one that has. Also a people can easily loose their written language, I mean look at the Mayans.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Are you saying afircan iliterate socieites have less right to exist than literate European societies.

did i say anything about existance?

Because this is what is implied that if a society does not have a written language then it isn't as developed as one that has.

literature is a big part of civilization, right?

[DinoDoc]

Might I suggesta compromise? Macedonia accepts the name FYROM if and only if Greece accepts the name FOPOG. How's that sound?

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by MarkG
did i say anything about existance?

Nomen ist Omen, if you deny them a name you deny them existance.

Originally posted by MarkG

literature is a big part of civilization, right?

So now a people have to be civlised to have the right to rule over themselves. Since that is what a state is.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Might I suggesta compromise? Macedonia accepts the name FYROM if and only if Greece accepts the name FOPOG. How's that sound?

Sounds reasonable.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Might I suggesta compromise? Macedonia accepts the name FYROM if and only if Greece accepts the name FOPOG. How's that sound?

Or FMPOG