Stabbing for GTA4

[Imran Siddiqui]

The fact that you compare GTAIV with WWE shows you completely lack of understanding on the issue and how out of touch you actually are.

It's like comparing the Beatles to Barney the Dinosaur's songs and considering them equivalent culturally because you don't like the Beatles.

[Wezil]

GTA = Beatles

You are hopelessly lost.

[Asher]

Originally posted by BeBro


And we all know what you think about entertainment

I love entertainment, I just don't think people should take taxpayer money to study it in university.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Wezil
GTA = Beatles

You are hopelessly lost.

It's not a bad comparison.

Both are cultural phenomenons that, to a large extent, popularized a craft even the face of opposition from the elderly members of society (in this case, you )

[Wezil]

You develop standards as you get older. Some day (if you are lucky) you will understand.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Wezil
GTA = Beatles

You are hopelessly lost.

In their relative spheres the analogy is very apt. Both in terms of popularity and critical accolade.

One thing I can't stand are arrogant *******s who pretend they are superior by disdaining and looking down their noses at anything that popular culture may have embraced, EVEN if it also has achieved great critical acclaim. I didn't think it reached video games (since most arrogant *******s look down on ALL video games are cultural sludge), but as the industry matures and grows, I figured it'd rear its ugly head in here as well.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
One thing I can't stand are arrogant *******s who pretend they are superior by disdaining and looking down their noses at anything that popular culture may have embraced, EVEN if it also has achieved great critical acclaim. I didn't think it reached video games (since most arrogant *******s look down on ALL video games are cultural sludge), but as the industry matures and grows, I figured it'd rear its ugly head in here as well.

Heaven help you next time you criticize ANYTHING for I will throw this argument back in your face.

I happen to enjoy many aspects of pop culture (including some of the crap parts) but I can be honest enough to admit it is crap.

[Agathon]

I don't see what's so wrong with GTA. It's fun to be the robber instead of the cop for a change. GTA is a satire on modern society and not a bad one in an age in which satire is difficult.

Being a ho stabbin robber lowlife is a welcome relief from being another good ol' clean shaven US special forces trooper defending fascism.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Wezil
Heaven help you next time you criticize ANYTHING for I will throw this argument back in your face.

I happen to enjoy many aspects of pop culture (including some of the crap parts) but I can be honest enough to admit it is crap.

I try to have reasons to look down upon things, and I try not to look down on things that are critically acclaimed, but my personal preference doesn't enjoy it (like the movie "The English Patient", which I find dull, but is very critically acclaimed... it just isn't my cup of tea, doesn't mean its crap).

The problem is that you've taken your own personal viewpoint and decided that's the be all and end all of cultural determination, regardless of the critical acclaim or social importance of the work. That is what makes you an arrogant ******* about this.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


I try to have reasons to look down upon things, and I try not to look down on things that are critically acclaimed, but my personal preference doesn't enjoy it (like the movie "The English Patient", which I find dull, but is very critically acclaimed... it just isn't my cup of tea, doesn't mean its crap).

The problem is that you've taken your own personal viewpoint and decided that's the be all and end all of cultural determination, regardless of the critical acclaim or social importance of the work. That is what makes you an arrogant ******* about this.

Harry Potter is a crappy children's book by the way.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


I try to have reasons to look down upon things, and I try not to look down on things that are critically acclaimed, but my personal preference doesn't enjoy it (like the movie "The English Patient", which I find dull, but is very critically acclaimed... it just isn't my cup of tea, doesn't mean its crap).

And I have reasons for looking down upon GTA.

The problem is that you've taken your own personal viewpoint and decided that's the be all and end all of cultural determination, regardless of the critical acclaim or social importance of the work. That is what makes you an arrogant ******* about this.

It's called an opinion Imran. Poly OT is built on them. As I say, I don't want to see you expressing one in the future b/c you will be subject to the same accusation.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Wezil
And I have reasons for looking down upon GTA.

Personal subjective reasons are no reason to look down upon something to the point of calling it cultural crap.

It's called an opinion Imran. Poly OT is built on them. As I say, I don't want to see you expressing one in the future b/c you will be subject to the same accusation.

Your opinion, stated in as arrogant a manner possible, against all sorts of critical acclaim, seems completely ridiculous. And yes, I do realize that on Poly OT, there are many, many unsubstantiated opinions and we usually just call them BAMs, so perhaps I'll start using that moniker with yours.

[Wezil]

Damn you love those critics.

[Imran Siddiqui]

What exactly is wrong with expert opinion? It allows for subjective opinion to have some, however slight, objective basis (if you consider a number of critical opinions).

It is, after all, how the cultural value of movies & music is determined (critics of today define the terms for the movie and music historians of tomorrow).

[Wezil]

You should be a "dittohead". Same philosophy.

Please, tell me what to think oh wise critic."