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    I'm Islamophobic

    There I’ve said it, I don’t like how laws are being changed to fit cultural norms that are fundamentally incompatible with western civilization. I now also have the intellectual integrity to admit to myself that multiculturalism is a complete failure. Similar cultures may coexist in this fashion; perhaps even radically different cultures that are tolerant can coexist, but a tolerant culture when confronted by an intolerant one will not alter the other culture, but it will begin to loose its ground.




    Ahh, this feels better, It's so weird not blaming yourself for being a bigoted xenophobic arse.... But its also liberating. Let other people do it for a change! I'm done with it.
    Last edited by Heraclitus; April 21, 2008, 00:12.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila
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    Wow, maybe we should start a club!

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    • #3
      You're wrong.
      Islam is not bad. Radicals are bad.
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      • #4
        You get blowed up enough you start getting an attitude.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SlowwHand
          You're wrong.
          Islam is not bad. Radicals are bad.
          Aren't only the free radicals were the problem?
          Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
          The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
          The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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          • #6
            a tolerant culture when confronted by an intolerant one will not alter the other culture, but it will begin to loose its ground.


            I haven't seen US government be altered by an intolerant Islamic culture, but rather by those who profess a belief in Christianity. Then again, it depends on what you consider an "intolerant one".
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            • #7
              I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                a tolerant culture when confronted by an intolerant one will not alter the other culture, but it will begin to loose its ground.


                I haven't seen US government be altered by an intolerant Islamic culture, but rather by those who profess a belief in Christianity. Then again, it depends on what you consider an "intolerant one".
                Oh, yes that is definitely intolerant.

                But you see the thing is Christianity is very strong in the US, not quite so here. I don't remember abortion clinics getting bombed here. People who opose abortion do so through legal means.


                Muslim extremists go beyond legal means in Europe.
                Last edited by Heraclitus; April 21, 2008, 00:19.
                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  a tolerant culture when confronted by an intolerant one will not alter the other culture, but it will begin to loose its ground.


                  I haven't seen US government be altered by an intolerant Islamic culture, but rather by those who profess a belief in Christianity. Then again, it depends on what you consider an "intolerant one".
                  I think he's talking about europe.
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                  • #10
                    Re: I'm Islamophobic

                    Originally posted by Heraclitus
                    There I’ve said it, I don’t like how laws are being changed to fit cultural norms that are fundamentally incompatible with western civilization.
                    Can you give some examples of these legal changes?
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Heraclitus
                      Oh, yes that is definitely intolerant. But you see the thing is Christianity is very strong in the US, not quite so here. Also the USA have few muslim immigrants, while the EU has quite a few.
                      Look at states like Michigan who have a great deal of Muslim immigrants. They haven't teetered on the brink.
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                      • #12
                        I believe France will be a majority Islamic state in 20 years or something like that. They have loads of nukes.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                          Look at states like Michigan who have a great deal of Muslim immigrants. They haven't teetered on the brink.
                          They're creating holes in the US border to be exploited by the great unwashed in Canada, however.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                            Look at states like Michigan who have a great deal of Muslim immigrants. They haven't teetered on the brink.
                            Not on European scales. Also, eeehh do I have to say this?... USAians are not as full of political correctness as we are and are for the most part less tolerant. You also have a much larger Christian poplulation meaning that zealots of one group are always in the minority held in check by the Christian fundamentalists.


                            Europe currently has no counterweight, and atheism has proven ineffectual at resisting conversion (as can be discerned from numerus cases of people who were not very religius converting to Islam).
                            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lancer
                              I believe France will be a majority Islamic state in 20 years or something like that. They have loads of nukes.
                              I'm sorry that is a bit overstated.

                              France has about 8% Muslim popluation. It would take more than 20 years for a majority.
                              Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                              The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                              The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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