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In the EAST, no-one mourns over their lost loved ones, they don't cry or grieve.
I call bull****.
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They feel pain and distress at the time of separation, but do not have a prolonged period of mourning. It's not viewed as a normal thing to do.
By easterners, I mean those immersed in eastern spiritual culture, with the whole ghosts and spirits baggage.Comment
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Think about it this way.A lot of people cling so tightly to a belief in God/Jesus or whatever that they'll insist other people have to believe also, or it'll make them very miserable, for instance a friend, a Christian, told me that it keeps her awake at night, suffering and miserable, that her son doesn't believe in Jesus. That's called clinging to a belief so tightly that it causes harm, it tortures both her and her son - can you imagine the son? "What Mum, you want me to believe in something I don't believe in just so you'll stop torturing yourself? gahhhhhh", I think she wonders why he's a bit messed in the head...
We only get one kick at the can blake, no do overs. We could all wake up tomorrow and we wouldn't be here on this earth.
If Christ truly did rise from the dead then we basically have one decision to make, whether to reject him or accept him, that's it. Accepting him means we get eternal life in heaven, rejecting him means we are doomed to Hell.
She loves her son, shouldn't her first concern be for his eternal salvation?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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Here's a great BBC documentary I watched about the life of Buddha.
I'd say Buddhism is a religion given the myths of the quasi divine origin (or at least how a Hindu goddess supposedly appeared to Buddha's mother) of the Buddha.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Quantum effects rarely manifest themselves so dramatically at non-quantum scales. The event of all the population of the earth spontaneously teleporting off the earth to somewhere else habitable is very, very low...Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Think about it this way.
We only get one kick at the can blake, no do overs. We could all wake up tomorrow and we wouldn't be here on this earth.
Please tell me scary stories about hell!If Christ truly did rise from the dead then we basically have one decision to make, whether to reject him or accept him, that's it. Accepting him means we get eternal life in heaven, rejecting him means we are doomed to Hell.
Christians always amuse and delight me with their scaremongering about hell. Doooomed to hell!
I'd never bow to a God who will not forgive someone who did their heartfelt best to uphold God's Noble Qualities of Love, Compassion and Forgiveness. I could never accept or respect such a vain and petty God.
I will take pleasure in saying to such a God:
"I'd rather suffer, thanks"
I am quite confident that Hell will be filled with like-minded Buddhists! You can't make a Buddhist suffer, so the Buddhists job is to make everyone else suffer with their incessant talking about Buddhism for all eternity.
If that's not motivation enough for you lot to accept Jesus Christ as your savor, I don't know what is!Comment
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This is one of the silliest questions ever. It depends on the Buddist. Some of them are very athesist-leaning but love Budda's teachings. In that case it's a Philosophy. Some of them belive in myths, life after death and mircles. For those it is a religion.
Note that this does not apply to things like Islam and Chirstainty because thier founders expictly stated that they where divine. Thus, all true members are religous.
/annoyed“...This means GCA won 7 battles against our units, had Horsemen retreat from 2 battles against NMs, and lost 0 battles.” --Jon Shafer 1st ISDGComment
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What happened to your monastic plans, Blake?Comment
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Biding my time! I'm not free of the world yet!
One of the sad realities, is that you can't just run off and join a Buddhist Monastery. There's basically a "no loose ends" rule.
There's good reason for that rule and I take it very seriously!
It is my plan that everyone I know will either be at peace with me becoming a Monk, or VERY HAPPY that I'm gone forever!
I don't care which way it is!
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Originally posted by Blake
Buddhists REALLY ARE OKAY, with other people not being Buddhists
. It's hard to understand that for some westerners, I think in large part because they are used to Christians and Muslims who can often be (or are stereotyped as) pretty intolerant - Many Westerners assume pushiness when someone starts talking about religion...
But it's not like that with Eastern religions, the east has a long history of religions getting along. Obviously Buddhists like to talk about Buddhism - it's the one unifying thing common of ALL Buddhists - the lot of them talk about Buddhism, but the "take it or leave" it attitude is very heartfelt and not some kind of reverse psychology (that's not reverse psychology! (or is it? (you just can't know (so go with whatever leaves you feeling more at peace))))
Dude there are plenty of tolerant people of almost all religions. We here on poly are trying to tell you that you are deluding yourself in thinking Buddhism is different from any other religion. All religions can be philosophies, or ethical systems by which to live.Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Wrong dude, you can take the thing as a metaphor. A philosophy. And you are forgetting that Buddhuism also has explicit supernatural components. I think the argument for a philospohy is present with Confucianism not Buddhism.Originally posted by MJW
Note that this does not apply to things like Islam and Chirstainty because thier founders expictly stated that they where divine. Thus, all true members are religous.
/annoyedModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Oh come onOriginally posted by Heraclitus
Dude there are plenty of tolerant people of almost all religions. We here on poly are trying to tell you that you are deluding yourself in thinking Buddhism is different from any other religion. All religions can be philosophies, or ethical systems by which to live.
Buddhists REALLY ARE OKAY, with other people not being Buddhists . It's hard to understand that for some westerners, I think in large part because they are used to Christians and Muslims who can often be (or are stereotyped as) pretty intolerant - Many Westerners assume pushiness when someone starts talking about religion...Comment
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Dude dropping out of the evolutinary race by joining a monastery is counterproductive and just ensures that future humans will be egoistical unspiritual jerks.Originally posted by Blake
It is my plan that everyone I know will either be at peace with me becoming a Monk, or VERY HAPPY that I'm gone forever!
I don't care which way it is!
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Oh come onOriginally posted by Blake
Oh come on
Buddhists REALLY ARE OKAYModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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You do well to consider, that in the East, it's not really that unusual for one person to have multiple religions! That's an entirely different level of tolerance...
I find it in practise, difficult to get invited to Church services, the Christians (good friends) who I ask to invite me kind of just think I'm bent for wanting to belong to two religions.
I know that there are some Christian-Buddhists, but it seems to be difficult for a Christian to even belong to multiple different sects of Christianity, which is just weird.
I don't think there are "plenty of" highly tolerant Christians, they merely aren't intolerant, and I find it hard to believe, that the openly highly tolerant ones aren't a bit shunned by their more fundamentalist brothers and sisters of the faith.
I'm not really sure what to think, about measuring a religion by it least fundamentalists members....
And as for this:
Indoctrinating your children is not the right way to spread any belief systemDude dropping out of the evolutinary race by joining a monastery is counterproductive and just ensures that future humans will be egoistical unspiritual jerks.
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Indoctrinate other peoples children
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Last edited by Blake; April 18, 2008, 08:31.Comment
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Quick reply, I haven't read the full thread yet, but:
It always struck me that with the Eastern schools of thought, there's not a very big difference between the concepts of "philosophy" and "religion", as for them, it's more a whole world-view thing; whereas in the West, philosophy's one thing, religion's another, and only occasionally do the two meet.
It could help explain why Eastern Philosophies, such as Buddhism, Daoism, and Confucianism, have such poor representation in Western educational institutions: they're too much like religions for comfort...
...but on the flip side, it could explain why a lot of Easterners find no problem being both Confucian and Catholic, Buddhist and Methodist, Daoist and Presbyterian, as they're so much like philosophies that there's little conflict with Western religions.B♭3Comment
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