In Soviet Russia, friends leave you

[DinoDoc]

I'll make it easy for you. Let's pick the 2 largest Euro members of the alliance. Point out the French and German combat troops. Bonus points if you can find any combat troops from Italy or Spain.

[Asher]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'll make it easy for you. Let's pick the 2 largest Euro members of the alliance. Point out the French and German combat troops. Bonus points if you can find any combat troops from Italy or Spain.

You're missing my point again. You're making a bad habit out of it.

Do you study filosofy in school?

I'll make it easy for you. I'm just saying one mission is a lot more worthwhile than the other. What does this have to do with Euros?

Arts students.

[DinoDoc]

If some of the largest members of the Alliance don't consider the mission worth contributing to in a meaningful fashion, how worthwhile can the Alliance consider the mission?

[Asher]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
If some of the largest members of the Alliance don't consider the mission worth contributing to in a meaningful fashion, how worthwhile can the Alliance consider the mission?

I don't care what the pansies in Europe think, why are you so fixated on their opinions?

Be a man, have your own opinions...don't model yourself after Italy.

[PLATO]

Let's see...what is NATO doing in Afghanistan? Or was the question, What is the USA doing of substance in Adghanistan?

Okay...

Fighting the Taliban...which was a sponsor government for Al-Qeada...which killed 3000 Americans on 9/11.

Keeping women from being shot in the back of the head at the stadium for showing their face in public

Allowing women to get an education

Keeping terrorist from having open and well supplied training camps

Basically, it comes down to protecting the people of the United States (and other "evil" western nations) from the horror of being slaughtered...not to mention trying to improve the quality of life of the Afghan people...

As for European participation...reread the treaty.

[Verto]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
I'll make it easy for you. Let's pick the 2 largest Euro members of the alliance. Point out the French and German combat troops. Bonus points if you can find any combat troops from Italy or Spain.

Separately, President Nicolas Sarkozy indicated France would return next year to the Nato military command it left in 1966 in protest at the dominance of US commanders.

He also said a battalion of extra French troops would be deployed to Afghanistan, easing fears of a crisis within the Western coalition there.

The US says the French move, expected to involve up to 1,000 extra soldiers, will free up some of its troops to move to southern Afghanistan, where Canada had demanded Nato reinforcements be sent.

[DinoDoc]

President Nicolas Sarkozy indicated France would return next year to the Nato military command

Irrelevant to the question asked.

a battalion of extra French troops would be deployed to Afghanistan

Where and under what conditions?

the French move, expected to involve up to 1,000 extra soldiers, will free up some of its troops to move to southern Afghanistan

Talk is cheap. Let's see if it happens.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

President Nicolas Sarkozy indicated France would return next year to the Nato military command

Irrelevant to the question asked.

a battalion of extra French troops would be deployed to Afghanistan

Where and under what conditions?

the French move, expected to involve up to 1,000 extra soldiers, will free up some of its troops to move to southern Afghanistan

Talk is cheap. Let's see if it happens.

But he answered your challenge. Where are the accolades?

[Wezil]

The French troops are going to the east, not the south where combat troops are required. Americans (one of the nations of the alliance that will fight) can then move to the south to help fight.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
NATO, created 1949
Warsaw Pact, created 1955

It took a few years for the Communists to finish shooting all the people in Eastern Europe who didn't want to live in a dictatorship run for Moscow.

[Dinner]

Here's a link to a Google Video version of a BBC documentary on the rise of Islamism specifically in Afghanistan and how it was the whole mess in that country came about. As usual the BBC is right on the money including criticism of the Reagan administration and how many of the same people ended up in the Bush administration making the same mistakes again. Truly great stuff from the BBC.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4602171665328041876

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Oerdin
It took a few years for the Communists to finish shooting all the people in Eastern Europe who didn't want to live in a dictatorship run for Moscow.

I said it first, and better.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Ecthy
"Their former allies are defecting..."

Georgia was never a voluntary ally of Russia. Nowadays their breakaway parts are supported by Russia so it's only natural they'd seek support from the outside.

Ukraine is split in half between a pro-Russia and a pro-Western part.

Why an expansion of Nato to the east would be so sensible ATM is beyond me. Must seem like real strong to some Americans, but if you live in Europe, next to Russia, it's hard to see much point in showing muscle to some easily irritable neighbour of yours.

Every German has learned well the lessons of Munich...

[Ecthy]

Care to elaborate?

Are you implying Russia is on an evil expansionist run as Germany was at the time? Do you believe that "not expanding deeply into the backyard of your neighbour" is the same as "appeasing an aggressive neighbour"?

Maybe I'm not getting the comparison well...

[onodera]

They should've invited us into the alliance instead of the Ukraine and Georgia.