A Right to die?

[Asher]

The one infuriating thing about Ben and his ilk is the unfailing hubris to know what's best for people other than themselves.

[Ben Kenobi]

Really? That seems incredible. It seems like you are just saying that. Sure it would be great if everyone treated her like she didn't have a disfiguration, but that's not going ot happen. You don't really believe that it is do you?

Everyone? No. That will never happen. But I do believe there are good people out there who will.

I've met some of them, wonderful, wonderful people, and I think that more then anything else would help her.

I think you should assume that I believe everything I am saying here, otherwise what's the point of posting?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Everyone? No. That will never happen. But I do believe there are good people out there who will.

I've met some of them, wonderful, wonderful people, and I think that more then anything else would help her.

I think you should assume that I believe everything I am saying here, otherwise what's the point of posting?

I think you might be assuming that sending some christian people over there to pay a pitty visit is going to make a different. That falls a bit short of people treating her as though she isn't misfigured.

[Ben Kenobi]

I think you might be assuming that sending some christian people over there to pay a pitty visit is going to make a different. That falls a bit short of people treating her as though she isn't misfigured.

No, not what I had in mind at all.

I was thinking of a friend. Someone who would see her and spend time with her on a regular basis. Who would enjoy her company. I know folks like that and they are excellent people.

And where did Christian come into this?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


No, not what I had in mind at all.

I was thinking of a friend. Someone who would see her and spend time with her on a regular basis. Who would enjoy her company. I know folks like that and they are excellent people.

And where did Christian come into this?

That's not the way friends work. You meet someone somewhere that you find interesting and attracted to in some way. Maybe they are funny or cool - at least interesting in some way. People who don't know her at all would only be her "friend" out of pity.

And I just figured that you meant some kind of christian missionary work.

Btw, maybe she has friends already but is still depressed. Did you think of that?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Aeson
DD would prefer suicides to be as messy and with as much collateral damage as possible.

Suicides always have collateral damage, Aeson. Pretending otherwise is only to be deluding one's self. As for what I would or would not prefer, I would prefer that the able bodied do such dirty work themselves rather than ask others to do it.

[Ben Kenobi]

That's not the way friends work. You meet someone somewhere that you find interesting and attracted to in some way.

Can't agree. Friendships start with one thing, caring about the other person for whatever reason. What one person finds interesting is another person's dislike. I've known people like that and some of them are really good people because they aren't shallow.

And I just figured that you meant some kind of christian missionary work.

Nope, I was thinking more of a companion and a good friend.

Btw, maybe she has friends already but is still depressed. Did you think of that?

I don't know. She sounds from what this short article has said that she's very lonely and feels socially isolated and ostracized by the community in general.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Can't agree. Friendships start with one thing, caring about the other person for whatever reason. What one person finds interesting is another person's dislike. I've known people like that and some of them are really good people because they aren't shallow.

I care about everyone. That doesn't mean that I'm everyones friend. You can only have so many friends, because you need to invest time into friendships.

I don't know. She sounds from what this short article has said that she's very lonely and feels socially isolated and ostracized by the community in general.

She probably has friends. She feels lonely because her friendships have changed because of her sickness. That's the facts of life.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Frankly who she is as a person has absolutely nothing to do with how she looks. I think it's disgusting anyone would accept her request to kill herself, rather then dealing with the real problems here.

Yes, she's lonely and ostracized. That hurts like hell. Why is the solution to kill her rather then treat her like a real person?

QFFT

Ben you hit the nail on the head.

[Heraclitus]

People what about the internet?

[Aeson]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Suicides always have collateral damage, Aeson. Pretending otherwise is only to be deluding one's self.

As would be reading "as much as possible" and coming up with the **** you just posted.

As for what I would or would not prefer, I would prefer that the able bodied do such dirty work themselves rather than ask others to do it.

Why do you oppose a free economy of people offering services to parties who wish to partake of them?

[Elok]

Wait, isn't this thing terminal? That's the usual case with right-to-die movements--they want to die quick and painless instead of slow and painful. Wanting to die because everyone looks at you like a freak is a bit different. I assume plastic surgery isn't practical for one reason or another.

If she isn't insane (or severely depressed, which amounts to the same thing) and honestly wants to kill herself, let her. It's immoral in my book, but as long as she's only killing herself she can make her own mistakes.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Aeson
Why do you oppose a free economy of people offering services to parties who wish to partake of them?

I oppose lazy people getting people to do work they could very easily do themself. It doesn't even take that much effort to kill yourself. If you're worried about the mess and I have no idea why you would given the fact you won't be there, there are even was to minimize the gore. CO poisoning for instance.

As would be reading "as much as possible" and coming up with the **** you just posted.

If they have people that they don't wish to harm emotinally and care about, why kill themselves?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Aeson
Why do you oppose a free economy of people offering services to parties who wish to partake of them?

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Originally posted by DD

oppose lazy people getting people to do work they could very easily do themself. It doesn't even take that much effort to kill yourself. If you're worried about the mess and I have no idea why you would given the fact you won't be there, there are even was to minimize the gore. CO poisoning for instance.

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*Gets popcorn

[Ben Kenobi]

Elok, about 85 percent of people with this would survive past five years.

It all depends on the cancer and whether it metastatizes elsewhere.

I guess Doc Strangelove could comment more, but that's what I see when looking this up.