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  • #31
    Why, what is the US going to do?
    In response to an unprovoked attack by Venezula? Oh, I don't know, but it probably invoves a carrier of two and some heavies out of Louisiana.
    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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    • #32
      Looks like Lula has demanded an apology from Uribe (which wasn't a given IMO). Colombia has to back down here...
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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      • #33
        Back down from what? They didn't do anything to Venezula in the first place, and what they did do to Equador is over with.
        "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Oerdin


          People in Venezuela find this sort of rambling nonsense to be compelling? Chavez is gibbering like a monkey.
          You are so wrong this time. Everything Chavez said is true, even the part about the US financing the Columbian government.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Patroklos


            In response to an unprovoked attack by Venezula? Oh, I don't know, but it probably invoves a carrier of two and some heavies out of Louisiana.
            And watch the price of oil go through the roof.
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            • #36
              Why, are we going to start sinking supertankers? I guess Chavez could shut down production, but something tells me in the middle of a war he is losing cutting 30% of his economy down isn't a good move.

              And something tells me after such a war the price of oil would make up for any previous spike
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • #37
                Back down from what? They didn't do anything to Venezula in the first place, and what they did do to Equador is over with.
                1. I didn't mention Venezuela. Lula is the (center-left) President of Brazil.
                2. Back down from their antagonistic relations with their neighbors and apologize profusely...
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Patroklos
                  Why, are we going to start sinking supertankers? I guess Chavez could shut down production, but something tells me in the middle of a war he is losing cutting 30% of his economy down isn't a good move.

                  And something tells me after such a war the price of oil would make up for any previous spike
                  Do you even know the first thing about how markets work? There would be a panic.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • #39
                    Do you even know the first thing about how markets work? There would be a panic.
                    Yeah, thats why I said spike. A humiliating defeat at the hands of primarily fellow South Americans with a little US air power thrown in means no more Chavez and thus a properly run oil industry. Or in other words, lower oil prices long term.

                    Honestly, how long could a border war like that last? Chavez can't aford a protracted military campaign even if the US doesn't get involved.
                    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Patroklos


                      Yeah, thats why I said spike. A humiliating defeat at the hands of primarily fellow South Americans with a little US air power thrown in means no more Chavez and thus a properly run oil industry. Or in other words, lower oil prices long term.

                      Honestly, how long could a border war like that last? Chavez can't aford a protracted military campaign even if the US doesn't get involved.
                      The US isn't going to do that. Oil spikes cause stagflation. Those are very bad and dangerous. Mkay. Sorry to ruin your little fantasy.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ramo


                        1. I didn't mention Venezuela. Lula is the (center-left) President of Brazil.
                        2. Back down from their antagonistic relations with their neighbors and apologize profusely...
                        if they apologize profusely won't that provide more incentive for FARC to continue sheltering in neighboring countries?

                        Apologizing is the last thing Colombia should do.

                        It should instead issue a statement of regret for any misunderstanding on the part of the Venezuelan and Ecuadorian governments.
                        Last edited by Geronimo; March 4, 2008, 22:44.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Geronimo
                          if they apologize profusely won't that provide more incentive for FARC to continue sheltering in neighboring countries?

                          Apologizing is the last thing Columbia should do.

                          It should instead issue a statement of regret for any misunderstanding on the part of the Venezuelan and Ecuadorian governments.
                          That will legitimize everything Venezuela and Ecuador do.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Kidicious


                            That will legitimize everything Venezuela and Ecuador do.
                            everything meaning what? and how?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Geronimo


                              everything meaning what? and how?
                              Everything meaning everything. Columbia invaded ecuador. And you expect them to use rhetoric that would suggest that they will do it again. In that case Venezuela and Ecuador can legitimately say and do anything.
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                              • #45
                                If Ecuador lacks the ability to control its territory and keep foreign influences out or worse if the evidence found at the base and they are supporting them pans out, why shouldn't Columbia be able to attack FARC bases?
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