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    By signing up for matching money, McCain agreed to adhere to strict state-by-state spending limits and an overall limit on spending of $54 million for the primary season, which lasts until the party's nominating convention in September. The general election has a separate public financing arrangement.

    But after McCain won a series of early contests and the campaign found its financial footing, his lawyer wrote to the FEC requesting to back out of the program -- which is permitted for candidates who have not yet received any federal money and who have not used the promise of federal funding as collateral for borrowing money.

    Mason's letter raises two issues as the basis for his position. One is that the six-member commission lacks a quorum, with four vacancies because of a Senate deadlock over President Bush's nominees for the seats. Mason said the FEC would need to vote on McCain's request to leave the system, which is not possible without a quorum. Until that can happen, the candidate will have to remain within the system, he said.

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    If the FEC refuses McCain's request to leave the system, his campaign could be bound by a potentially debilitating spending limit until he formally accepts his party's nomination. His campaign has already spent $49 million, federal reports show. Knowingly violating the spending limit is a criminal offense that could put McCain at risk of stiff fines and up to five years in prison.

    "If in fact he is stuck with these spending limits, it would be a serious limitation on what he can do," said Rick Hasen, an election law expert at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles.

    Finance experts compared the situation to the massive imbalance faced by Republican presidential nominee Robert J. Dole in 1996, when he was forced to contend with spending limits while his opponent, President Bill Clinton, was not.

    Trevor Potter, a former FEC chairman who is McCain's top lawyer, immediately disputed the assertions in Mason's letter, saying McCain has a constitutional right to exit the federal program. He also dismissed the letter as unenforceable because the FEC lacks a quorum to resolve the dispute.

    "We believe that Senator McCain had a clear legal right to withdraw from the primary matching fund system, and he has done so," Potter told the Associated Press. "No FEC action was or is required for withdrawal."

    Campaign finance experts were split on how serious the FEC position could become. But several agreed that the matter would not be resolved by McCain simply ignoring the letter and plowing ahead.

    "It's nice for Trevor Potter to say 'Buzz off,' but the campaign is going to have to respond," said Bradley Smith, a former FEC chairman.

    "This is serious," agreed Republican election lawyer Jan Baran. Ignoring the matter on the grounds that the FEC lacks a quorum, Baran said, "is like saying you're going to break into houses because the sheriff is out of town."


    Replace FEC with FISA and that could be taken right out of the Bush administration's approach to government. We can only hope that the law is enforced and that McCain's criminal misconduct will be punished as the law demands.
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    • #3
      Oerdin, these absurdly misleading thread titles are getting old. You're lucky I'm not OT mod or i'd edit them out.

      McCain has done NOTHING wrong yet, your own article says that he will be limited in spending until he wins the nomination, not that he HAS violated anything. He's asked to be let out of public financing, which is permitted if he has not used any financing yet - unclear if that's the case or not based on that article, but it's certainly not illegal to ask.
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      • #4
        Oerdin is jockeying for the position of whomever is next prez, can have, "Don't Blame Me. I Didn't Vote." bumper sticker.
        Who are you for, Oerdin? I'd like to have it on record.
        Or do you just ***** as an avid hobby?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by snoopy369
          Oerdin, these absurdly misleading thread titles are getting old. You're lucky I'm not OT mod or i'd edit them out.

          McCain has done NOTHING wrong yet, your own article says that he will be limited in spending until he wins the nomination, not that he HAS violated anything. He's asked to be let out of public financing, which is permitted if he has not used any financing yet - unclear if that's the case or not based on that article, but it's certainly not illegal to ask.
          Yep. This title is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
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            At least my articles are funny.
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            • #7
              (checks teapot; notes tempest; shrugs)
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              • #8
                From your esteemed MoveOn correspondent.
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                • #9
                  Misleading thread titles
                  THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
                  AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
                  AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
                  DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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                  • #10
                    McCain has done NOTHING wrong yet
                    I don't think that's clear. I would say that he has legal problems if he has broken the spending limit (which he's no more than a couple million away from doing - so that likely will be the case in a week). That's problematic because:
                    a.) He qualified to get on the OH ballot based on public financing certification. Note that qualifying for ballots can be very expensive processes otherwise (campaigns have spent a couple million to get on all the ballots), so McCain already took advantage of the public system.
                    b.) He used staying in the race if he were losing and taking public money (effectively defrauding the taxpayer) as collateral for a loan he took out. Which may or may not legally count as taking advantage of the public system.
                    c.) Because of the second point, the Republican FEC Chair had some sharp questions for McCain which he subsequently ignored. It's not clear that the other issues aside, that a candidate can remove himself from the public system without getting FEC authorization.

                    And legal issues aside, all this was certainly skeezy as hell.
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                    • #11
                      Yep, breaking the law no longer matters.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Oerdin
                        Yep, breaking the law no longer matters.
                        Rather, it would seem that non republicans breaking the law doesn't matter to you given how little we see of you complaining about it.

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                        • #13
                          McCain out and Mike for pres

                          that's how it should be ...
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                          • #14
                            Based on what I have seen from across the ocean McCain seems like a stand-up guy.

                            Is he ?
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                            • #15
                              Gay?

                              no... he has had sex with many women, and he is an American, so that's got to be good right?

                              But to stay true to form we should support the candidate with the best sense of humor, so Mike gets my vote, and kick out McCain for fraud
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