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Oerdin has gone wacky with his McCain hate.
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This is really worse than some wacky Right wingers have for Hillary Clinton (the fact that Oerdin also hates Hillary Clinton is part of the fun here).“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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On another note the New York Times has a nice piece on the Hillary implosion in Wisconsin. She even lost her traditional blue collar voters.
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McCain was about $5 million from the public spending limit as of the last filing (1/31). It seems likely that he has already broken it, and if that's not the case, there's no doubt that he will within a couple weeks.
For the record, here's the WaPo's description:If that is actually true, then he legally cannot withdraw.
The second issue is more complicated. It involves a $1 million loan McCain obtained from a Bethesda bank in January. The bank was worried about his ability to repay the loan if he exited the federal financing program and started to lose in the primary race. McCain promised the bank that, if that happened, he would reapply for matching money and offer those as collateral for the loan. While McCain's aides have argued that the campaign was careful to make sure that they technically complied with the rules, Mason indicated that the question needs further FEC review.
As I was saying, really goddamn skeezy...
There's another irony here: the public financing system that McCain looks like he's locked into is widely acknowledged as broken, and there's a significant reform effort to change that. McCain was a part of that effort, up until a couple years ago when he had to appease conservatives skeptical about his public financing advocacy. His withdrawal helped to kill the effort."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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McCain's basic problem is that the general election is going to start 4 or 5 months before the convention. He still is getting the nomination, but that leaves him at a serious disadvantage with the Dems (who were already beating the **** out of him in fundraising).He may have a hard time between now and the end of the primary season (though to be honest he could pretty much stop campaigning now and still win...)"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Oh? Do we have to go look at the proportion of your threads that attack Republicans, and the proportion that attack Democrats, or will you just admit on your own you're just a hack?Originally posted by Oerdin
Bah, up yours. I condemn law breaking where ever it occurs.Comment
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
Oerdin has gone wacky with his McCain hate.
I don't hate McCain and would definitely vote for him before Hillary. I do hate the law breaking though.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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What I really don't understand is that idea that violating campaign finance laws in reference to federal matching funds would make McCain subject to jail time. I'm doubting there are criminal penalties for raising more than the mandated amount.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Are you some kind of Sergeant Friday or something?Originally posted by Oerdin
I don't hate McCain and would definitely vote for him before Hillary. I do hate the law breaking though.
Last edited by Kidlicious; February 25, 2008, 12:46.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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What I really don't understand is that idea that violating campaign finance laws in reference to federal matching funds would make McCain subject to jail time. I'm doubting there are criminal penalties for raising more than the mandated amount.
The issue is spending more than the mandated amount, and yes there are. From the WaPo article I linked:
By signing up for matching money, McCain agreed to adhere to strict state-by-state spending limits and an overall limit on spending of $54 million for the primary season, which lasts until the party's nominating convention in September. The general election has a separate public financing arrangement.
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If the FEC refuses McCain's request to leave the system, his campaign could be bound by a potentially debilitating spending limit until he formally accepts his party's nomination. His campaign has already spent $49 million, federal reports show. Knowingly violating the spending limit is a criminal offense that could put McCain at risk of stiff fines and up to five years in prison."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Cmon supreme court, declare this stinker unconstitutional.Originally posted by Oerdin
It is true and even more ironic is that McCain seems to be guilty of breaking the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Law.
McCain took the money and opted in for public financing using the money to pay for most of his early campaign. Then his campaign took off and suddenly McCain was flushed with cash. Now he wants out of the system he helped create but he legally cannot because the President and Congress are at odds over FEC appointments such that there isn't enough sitting members for the committee to legally convene.
McCain has decided to simply break the Campaign Finance law and spend in excess of the limits. That's a crime.Comment
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That is very unlikely to be true. Five weeks and two primaries ago he only had $5 million left in his cap. It is almost a sure thing that he's spent more then $5 million over the last five weeks. One ad blitz in one primary on one station and $5 million is gone.Originally posted by snoopy369
He HAS NOT BROKEN THE LAW YET. It CLEARLY states that multiple times in your article.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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It made it through the 2004 and 2006 elections so it is unlikely to suddenly run into trouble now. McCain on the other hand...Originally posted by Whoha
Cmon supreme court, declare this stinker unconstitutional.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Then find the article that states this... or stop spewing unverified lies, Dan Rather.Originally posted by Oerdin
That is very unlikely to be true. Five weeks and two primaries ago he only had $5 million left in his cap. It is almost a sure thing that he's spent more then $5 million over the last five weeks. One ad blitz in one primary on one station and $5 million is gone.
He spent $49m over what, three to four months? That's like $2.5m/week at most, and presumably a much larger portion was spent during Super Tuesday. Why would he suddenly spend $5m on one (very incredibly expensive) ad now that he's up against the cap?<Reverend> IRC is just multiplayer notepad.
I like your SNOOPY POSTER! - While you Wait quote.Comment
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