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Btw, just because colonalism was racist doesn't mean its overall effect can't be good.
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"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously. -
Theoretically, yes. Some places did quite well with colonization . . . like America . . . after we exterminated the original population.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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BTW a couple of posters seem to have the wrong impression. I'm not advocating a return to colonialism but I do want to look at the real historical impacts from both positive and negative points of view. During the first half of the 20th century the dominant view was that colonialism was undoubtedly beneficial to all involved (abet not equally) while in the second half of the 20th century the dominant view was that colonialism was evil with no redeeming value.
I honestly believe the truth lies some where in the middle which is why I posted this thread. Some people, though, can't seem to get beyond their knee jerk reactions or entrenched political positions. I hope we can all avoid that in the future.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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If you had started with Asia, you would have been on much firmer ground making that statement, but you started with Africa, and specifically the Congo, which was the first genocide of a century of genocide. That would be like talking about how America benefited the Indians.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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As much as Koreans hated the Japanese colonial period, and trust me these guys take it to an Irish-English level of hate sometimes, some of the Koreans will actually admit that the Japanese colonialism actually helped develop the country greats. Building railroads, ports, roads, factories, mines, etc...Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Theoretically, yes. Some places did quite well with colonization . . . like America . . . after we exterminated the original population.
That doesn't mean they want the Japanese back but it does mean that the truth lays some where in between the Colonialism = evil and the savages need whitey sides. I think most of the best parts of colonialism (I.E. development and increased trade) can be reproduced via free trade and private investment while the worst parts (foreign political domination, etc) are avoided.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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I didn't start with Congo. Time Magazine did and I just posted the article and asked the question. Please learn that quoted authors are not me and I speak for myself not for them or vis versa.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If you had started with Asia, you would have been on much firmer ground making that statement, but you started with Africa, and specifically the Congo, which was the first genocide of a century of genocide. That would be like talking about how America benefited the Indians.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Except all that infrastructure was destroyed in the Korean Civil War.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I read your comments.Originally posted by Oerdin
I didn't start with Congo. Time Magazine did and I just posted the article and asked the question. Please learn that quoted authors are not me and I speak for myself not for them or vis versa.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I think that's pretty obvious. Similar arguments can be made for almost any "bad" periods in history - Stalin built up Russian industry, teh pharaohs built pyramids, etc.Originally posted by Oerdin
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It only falls apart when you get to Hitler.
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why?
he orderedt the Volks-Wagen Beetle, that ranks almost in line with the Pyramids
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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Also, without Hitler there'd be no History Channel or WW2 video games. All those people without jobs
THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
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no RCTW:ET
also no Israel
Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"Comment
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No, there still would have been a world war, even without him. Now the person who designed the stuka dive bomber? take him out of the equation and you place the history channel into serious jeopardy.Originally posted by LordShiva
Also, without Hitler there'd be no History Channel or WW2 video games. All those people without jobs
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Originally posted by Whoha
No, there still would have been a world war, even without him. Now the person who designed the stuka dive bomber? take him out of the equation and you place the history channel into serious jeopardy.
Be careful, Whoha. Tiamat has been dumping scalding coffee on a lot of Whohas lately. Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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