Tweet
Originally posted by Whoha
Neither Europe nor the United states will be re-doing colonialism.
Neither Europe nor the United states will be re-doing colonialism.
-
Sure, now that they think there's no life on mars.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!" -
Africa has skipped a few centuries of society development. They've been thrown into a phase of multinational superstates without passing through a phase of nationstates first. Almost every African state is an equivalent of the EU. Obviously that can't work.
Lacking nationalism, African states also lack the consensus and widespread mutual trust needed for contract enforcement and successful capitalism.
I think that colonialism was, all things considered, good for Africa. You can define good and bad in various ways, but today about a billion (I didn't check) people live in Africa. If the West stayed out completely, there would be perhaps only 50-100 million.Comment
-
Yeah, we'll leave that up to China.Originally posted by Whoha
Neither Europe nor the United states will be re-doing colonialism.
Comment
-
Re: How bad was colonialism really?
Originally posted by Oerdin
the rapid decline of living standards in post colonial Africa
THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTFComment
-
Oerdin is teh crazy.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett KavanaughComment
-
I think you'd accomplish a lot more by going there.
I'm serious, Oerdin. Peace Corps is calling.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
-
It all depends on the methods used.Comment
-
what are you talking about? Africans under the colonial system had NO access to the free markets - they were mercantalist outposts. That Africa still makes most of its money from rseource exports if that most of those railroads and ports were built for the express purpose of taking resouces out.Originally posted by Oerdin
Free trade, combined with some international pressure to force good governance (or at least weed out the worst robber states) will improve the lives of most Africans. I do believe that one of the few good things to come out of colonialism was that it hugely expanded world trade, generating much wealth, and improved standards of living across the globe. That can be done again without the negative effects of colonialism if enlightened rulers can move to the forefront.
Increasing African access to free tarde has nothing to do with direct 'Western' governance of Africa. And in most of Africa standards of living are better now than 60 years ago anyways.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
-
BULL.Originally posted by VetLegion
I think that colonialism was, all things considered, good for Africa. You can define good and bad in various ways, but today about a billion (I didn't check) people live in Africa. If the West stayed out completely, there would be perhaps only 50-100 million.
Western advances in medicine and sanitation and new crops would have made it into Africa regardless of direct "Western" control, and those are the things responsible for mass population growth. You of course would also have to figure a slower advance in the West, given that Western economic dominance was built in part by massive exploitation of African resources and African labor (and earlier exploitation of the Americas)
The West did not just gift anything to Africa. All those railroads in Africa that people mention - they were built by Africans and paid in full by the explotaition of African resources extracted by Africans.If you don't like reality, change it! me
"Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
"Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard ShawComment
-
A bit strange that you picked the Congo when talking about "how bad was colonialism really." If you want to know how bad colonialism could get, read up a bit on the history of the Congo, it makes the Congo of today look like happy pony land.Stop Quoting BenComment
-
It's the turn of the Chinese to run the place, they need rubber(s).Long time member @ Apolyton
Civilization player since the dawn of timeComment
-
3/10.How bad was colonialism really?
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.Comment
-
quoted for mother-****ing truthOriginally posted by Geronimo
how bad is genocide and murder really?A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
-
It's a question, how can you quote it for truth?Originally posted by MrFun
quoted for mother-****ing truthModern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
-
Because 95% if geting the right answer is figuring out what the right question is.Originally posted by Heraclitus
It's a question, how can you quote it for truth?
Comment
Comment