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I'm with BK. It would have been far better to have the pope deliver his speech and then have his opinions utterly eviscerated by the students in the open.
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This seems to be the key paragraph:
Seems to just be more hysterical Pope bashing.The newspaper Il Giornale, which republished his 1990 speech, said the Pope had "expressed a different position" from that of the Austrian scholar Paul Feyerabend, "absolutely not adopting it as his own". The Vatican's own daily, L'Osservatore Romano, carried an article by the Jewish mathematician Giorgio Israel, in which he wrote that the Pope's address "could well be considered, by anyone who read it with a minimum of attention, as a defence of Galilean rationality against the scepticism and relativism of postmodern culture".Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
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DinoDoc is right, people are letting their prejudice show on this one. I don't want to keep people from bashing religious authority, but please have a bit of intellectual integrity while you’re doing it!Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.â€
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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Intellectual integrity on Poly?Originally posted by Heraclitus
DinoDoc is right, people are letting their prejudice show on this one. I don't want to keep people from bashing religious authority, but please have a bit of intellectual integrity while you’re doing it!
Might as well ask for chastity in a whorehouse.
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I'm speaking of his statement saying that the trial of Galileo was "fair and reasonable".Whaleboy: What opinions regarding science did the pope present in the article? All I saw was the pope when cardinal giving an opinion on a political trial that took place centuries ago."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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Considering it took place in the 16th century, fair and reasonable are (ironicallyOriginally posted by Whaleboy
I'm speaking of his statement saying that the trial of Galileo was "fair and reasonable".
) very relative terms and they may have a good point on that.
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.â€
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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It's very different to saying that some injustice was "by the book" at the time, but why bother to say it if he didn't agree with it now? By invoking relativism to defend a point, you effectively invalidate the purpose of making the point in the first place and given the Pope's already well-known views on relativism, I doubt it's something that he would have meant."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
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That's why I used theOriginally posted by Whaleboy
It's very different to saying that some injustice was "by the book" at the time, but why bother to say it if he didn't agree with it now? By invoking relativism to defend a point, you effectively invalidate the purpose of making the point in the first place and given the Pope's already well-known views on relativism, I doubt it's something that he would have meant.. 
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.â€
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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*Must stop drinking while posting*"I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
"You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:Comment
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Me too. But let's face it, its more fun this way.Originally posted by Whaleboy
*Must stop drinking while posting*
Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.â€
The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez DávilaComment
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The Catholic Church can hardly complain:Originally posted by Zkribbler
I remember when universities were open to all thought.
Now, I guess you have your thoughts okayed before you get to speak.
Hans Kung:
Do as I say, not do as I do...As an eminent scholar, at one time considered a bright and rising star in the Roman Catholic Church, he stands out for having criticised and challenged the idea that Christian authority can be absolute. In his Church this takes the form of the so-called infallibility of the Bishop of Rome (the Pope). His book Infallible? An Enquiry (1978) led to his official permission to teach being withdrawn by Pope John Paul II.
But his refusal to revoke the challenge of his book on papal authority led to him leaving the post
and moving to the independent Institute for Ecumenical Research at Tubingen University. He is no longer considered an official representative of Roman Catholic theology there.
I don't believe the piano player was required to put out....Might as well ask for chastity in a whorehouse.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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Intellectual integrity on Poly?
Might as well ask for chastity in a whorehouse.
Well said.
Heck, Dr. Death Jack Kevorkian just got PAID 50k to go and speak in Florida by one of the universities there.
Somehow I think people would be up in arms if the pope got paid 50k by a university to come and speak.
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That would be so cool1Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
And yes, Blackcat, if the students invite flat earthers, they should be permitted to speak on campus. That's the whole point of letting students invite people to speak there.
I'd attend one of those if I were on campus! 
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