Lost: Season Four

[Wiglaf]

Originally posted by MarkG
lately i have found it more entertaining to leave myself at the hands of the creators of the show while watching the episode for the first time. let them tell their story and leave the analyzing afterwards. for example when i saw the tombstone, i knew there was certainly something about the dates but chose to enjoy the scene rather than starting thinking what month it was on the stone and what that meant about whether jin is really alive or not, or if....

perhaps you need to realize that is a tv show not some quiz that you're instantly enforced to answer....

So when you saw the tombstone you immediately thought Jin had died off-camera in the flashforward? And you didn't think it was odd he said he was married two months after going to see another woman? This is a big problem for your analytical skills I'm afraid.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Guynemer
As far as the other two "survivors" in the Oceanic Six fairy tale, I thought perhaps it was just another part of the cover-up, ie it would be more believable that a couple people who survived the initial crash would succumb to their injuries and/or exposure.

Just found confirmation of this in an interview with the creators. http://www.ugo.com/tv/lost/?cur=darlton

The relevent section:

UGO: So the story for the Oceanic 6 is that they came from a group of 8 survivors. Are we going to find out the identity of the other 2 supposedly not so lucky survivors?

DAMON: Well, that is part of the fiction as concocted by the Oceanic 6. Many, many things that Jack said on the stand at Kate's trial were untrue, although he was under oath, like the Marshall dying in the crash for example. We want to be very clear on the idea that there were only ever the Oceanic 6. The identity of those other two people are not as important as people are making them out to be, it just makes it feel like a more believable fiction.

[Dinner]

I thought the latest episode kind of sucked.

[Guynemer]

[flash9286]

Looks like that theory about miles might be correct. From the promo of the next show.

n the episode, Sayid confronts Ben’s spy on the freighter, and Ben urges daughter Alex to flee Locke’s camp in order to survive an impending attack.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by flash9286
I thought this was very interesting.

http://lost-theories.com/theories/2008/feb/22/32-million-dollars/

Remember at the end of season 2 Ben tells Micheal to follow a bearing of 325 to get off the island.

Now, that is clever. Didn't see that.

But why would he want to help Ben?

[Dinner]

The black guy with the son Walt is back.

[Guynemer]

...

'kay...

[Dr Strangelove]

Charles Whidmore wants Ben 'cause he wants to know how Ben managed to come up with 300+ bodies to plant in the faked remnants of Oceanic 815, not to mention how he managed to produce and plant a fake plane and black box. Evidently Ben is a man of many talents.

I wonder if the writers took some of their inspiration from Shakespeare's The Tempest.

[flash9286]

But why would he want to help Ben?

Maybe he could be Ben's spy.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
So when you saw the tombstone you immediately thought Jin had died off-camera in the flashforward?

No
If you read my post you'll see that i referred to the dates on the stone and what it mean on whether jin's ff death was staged or not

And you didn't think it was odd he said he was married two months after going to see another woman?

it didnt need to come to that. the whole thing was revealed when the guy responded that the baby jin had gone to visit was a boy

what i did say that i didnt notice was the "dragon year" thing

[Wiglaf]

Um. You explicitly said "Damn I didn't notice" that the Jin story was a flashback. So yes, the whole thing was revealed, but not to you or Solver apparently.

This also means you also didn't get that 2000 was the year of the dragon, since the flashforwards only occur post 2004. ****ing Jin and his panda

[Solver]

Much as I agree it was silly not to notice it was a flashback, is "year of the dragon" really such a hint? Do people really tend to know which year is which critter?

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
Um. You explicitly said "Damn I didn't notice" that the Jin story was a flashback.

i simply quoted the whole post instead of just the "dragon" part to which i was referring to.

perhaps you expect the worst in people and jumped to conclusions....

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by flash9286

Maybe he could be Ben's spy.

I thought of that, but the spy still seems to be onboard the ship.