Planet Earth without the USA

[Heraclitus]

Re: Re: Planet Earth without the USA

Originally posted by Spec


Where did you get that idea?!

Spec.

I've been meditating for seven days and nights ever since I read Blakes thread.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Aeson
Utah is the only state which reforms, due to thousands of LDS Missionaries in foreign countries returning home to the "promised land"... and no one else really caring about Utah.

I suppose Mexico goes into land grab mode.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You meet the same fate. Or starve to death as the ability to leave just disappeared and I doubt you know how to farm.

[DinoDoc]

You're the one that said all infrastructure is gone. I thought it was clear I was talking to LS anyway.

[Japher]

Originally posted by Heraclitus


I suppose Mexico goes into land grab mode.

So true! Canada will start complaining about all the illegals... and have nicely manicured lawns.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You're the one that said all infrastructure is gone. I thought it was clear I was talking to LS anyway.

Better edit and add a quote, there are two posts between LS's post and yours...

[Vesayen]

Instant global depression.... how much of the world financial data is stored in U.S. record systems? How much of the world other records and data systems are stored in, or processed through the U.S.?

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Blake
Global Celebrations, I suspect.

I mean sure, a big pity about the USA, but hey Bush is gone!

And thousands if not millions of christian fundamentalists (especially reborn christians)

And lots of pollution, especially from grandfathered industries and SUVs

The rest, of course, might be missed.

[Whoha]

Re: Planet Earth without the USA

Originally posted by Heraclitus
Imagine the territory of the US, in an instant reverting to its natural condition. All of the people and infrastructure are gone.

Only Americans living abroad including US troops and their equipment remain. This does not extend to US nuclear subs.

What happens?

If our entire navy / sans subs, and the rest of our forces scattered about the world still exist, then those probably take over the world under the auspices of whatever commander is in charge of them. All that stuff would also have to disappear for the more interesting question of what would the world do.

[Proteus_MST]

Hm, the question is how far they would come before they would be affected by the loss of their supply lines.

While it won´t affect their fuel too much, if they can probably seize it from the local populace it will definitely affect their stocks in ammo. I doubt they will find a producer for intelligent precision weapons or the Sabots used in their tanks in the conquered territories
(unless of course they try to conquer europe and, against all odds, succeed with it )

[Whoha]

Thats why they'd have to move fast and use a lot of force, including what nukes they have left.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
You meet the same fate. Or starve to death as the ability to leave just disappeared and I doubt you know how to farm.

Teh insfrastructure is gone, but that means all teh stuff in the Costco a few miles from me would just be lying on teh ground, so I'll be able to feed myself for a while. Teh rivers would clean up so I could bathe in there (using soap and stuff from Costco), so I could spend my time with teh foreigner ladies who would also be around

Then I can organise all teh other foreigners into a private army and we can go over to where they stored teh guns and stuff (which would be lying on teh ground), and then invade Canada

[Proteus_MST]

Originally posted by Whoha
Thats why they'd have to move fast and use a lot of force, including what nukes they have left.

I wonder if there would be any american nukes left at all.

The nuclear missile subs will be destroyed, as well as the nuclear silos in the USA.

Are there actually any nuclear weapons abroad, for example on board of US carriers or US bases in foreign teritories?

[Heraclitus]

Re: Re: Planet Earth without the USA

Originally posted by Whoha


If our entire navy / sans subs, and the rest of our forces scattered about the world still exist, then those probably take over the world under the auspices of whatever commander is in charge of them. All that stuff would also have to disappear for the more interesting question of what would the world do.

Attrition isn't a word in you're dictionary, apparently. Anyway I said no subs.

[Geronimo]

The orphaned military forces would probably just try to conquer the now vacant US territories from the mexicans. I think supply line issues would erode their capabilities so badly they would have trouble even pulling that off and would end up helping to establish a rump state with large portions of the US territory ceded to mexico. Canada would probably send in forces to keep the peace in neighboring areas but would avoid actually using threat of force to claim control of any of it.