45 second record from pullover tasering - Austin Texas

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Wezil
I am absolutely stunned that even you will attempt to justify that.

QFT. Donegeal is a tool.

Apparently tasering is the appropriate response to any departure from procedure.

[Wezil]

I don't think I have a rep on these boards as an extremist but I'm going to say it anyway. I think that cop was a sadist. I see no better explanation for why he was so eager to use that taser.

I would have fired the bastard outright. He's dangerous.

[Dis]

whenever I'm feeling down on myself, I can still wake up and be glad I don't live in Texas.

[Donegeal]

Get all the info first, Wezil.

The info from dispatch could have been "This guy has three arrests for BTPO."

Yes, it happened a bit quickly, but there might have been reason for it.

Anyway... I'll be back in a couple of hours. Family is coming home soon...

(and if my two year old gets outta line... )

[Dis]

I think the biggest problem is cops think of it as a non lethal weapon. It should be used as a second to last resort (but before pulling a gun). Seeing as some people are susceptible to dying from the thing, it should be used as a second to last resort.

Even if the thing doesn't kill you it's going to hurt like hell. Though I've never been hit by one, but I'm sure it hurts.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Donegeal

Yep, but nowhere it's stated that you must do it in a split second.

Correct. Maybe it should be done by the 4th time your told to do so.

Ehrm, that officer managed to give that order four times in something like 15 seconds including the explanation of why he was pulled over.

However, like I said, I would have given verbal commands more of a shot; but then I was not privy to the background info given to the officer about the subject.

What background ? No licence plate so no way to identify the driver, and they obviously didn't knew each other.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Donegeal
Get all the info first, Wezil.

As I am not in a position to fire his ass I am also not in a position to have "all the info".

The info from dispatch could have been "This guy has three arrests for BTPO."

The fact the officer was ultimately suspended for his behaviour leads me to believe this was not the case. Since it is your theory, you provide better evidence than this.

Yes, it happened a bit quickly, but there might have been reason for it.

"a bit quickly"? That's a heck of an understatement.

I have a couple theories:

a) The cop really had to pee and couldn't hold it much longer. I have nothing to back this up, just throwing the idea out there.

b) He really wanted to taser someone and any ol' excuse would do. My evidence for this? What I just saw.

Anyway... I'll be back in a couple of hours. Family is coming home soon...

(and if my two year old gets outta line... )

Two year olds are pretty threatening sometimes.

[DinoDoc]

Wezil: The fact that the officer was suspended seems to be because the video got out. IA saw no need for action.

[Wezil]

So as with the last incident, I'm being told a good officer was suspended for a job well done simply for PR reasons.

I call BS.

[Will9]

I thinkhe was about to get after the second request, but without even giving him afew seconds, the cop then gets impatient and raises his voice and makes a third request. The driver then gets angry and basically tells the officer to calm down and give him some time. The officer then gets even more impatient and is appearantly thinking the driver is being more unreasonable when he makes a forth request. The passenger then tells the driver just to give him the licence. When the driver responed with "no" the officer took it as a direct rejection (and he was probably going to tell the officer to calm down again).

[DanS]

Originally posted by Donegeal
When you get pulled over, how quickly does the officer get to your car after you've stopped? When have you even been pulled over and NOT been asked for a drivers licence?

I wouldn't retrieve my documents before the cop gets to the car. You never know if the cop thinks you're pulling a gun.

Best to wait until he gets to the car and can see what you're doing with your hands and then do what the cop says.

Maybe this is just city paranoia, on the other hand.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by DanS
I wouldn't retrieve my documents before the cop gets to the car. You never know if the cop thinks you're pulling a gun.

That gives me the idea, why not just walk up to the car and zap them while they are still in the car? Not only will it prevent friendly police officers from being brutally shot to death, it also reduces the risk that innocent* drivers hurt themselves when they fall down on the street

*All suspects are guilty; otherwise they wouldn't be suspects, would they?

[SlowwHand]

I throw my hands out the window and scream that I give up. Whatever it was, I'm SO sorry.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Wezil: The fact that the officer was suspended seems to be because the video got out. IA saw no need for action.

Yes, IA took no action when they should have. The fact the video got out only made it impossible to cover any more. The recent taser case in BC was a good example of this. The cops originally siezed the tape and for an entire month claimed no big deal. Only when forced to release the tape by threat of court action did the public see what the RCMP knew.

[Dinner]

There simply is no justification for that kind of uncalled for brutality. No sane person would buy into the claim that the man ever physically resisted. At a bare minimum the cop should have been fired and the city of Austin should get its ass sued to force them to control their police and remind them they're public servants.