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Originally posted by -Jrabbit
So Pat Robertson is supporting a pro-choice, pro-gay, non-bornagain, Roman Catholic multiple-divorcee candidate?
Fixed.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Originally posted by Arrian
DD is correct, however, that they will not vote for Hillary. Probably not for any Dem.
-Arrian
Which is amusing because Hillary and Obama are probably more religious than Guiliani or Thompson.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Republican senators have spoken out about how religious Hillary is (After she joined the senate).
JM
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Originally posted by Berzerker
you know, this is almost as bad as a bible thumper getting busted hitting on guys in a bathroom. Rudy and Pat dont agree on much at all, certainly not on abortion. All that BS about being pro life is a smokescreen, at least Dobson said he couldn't endorse Rudy.
Yep, this is hypocrisy all right but you have to give Robertson and the other hypocrites credit. They realize that Ruby has tied up the Republican nomination so now they can be hypocrites and endorse him or they can become outsiders with no influence. Robertson and his ilk are junkies who crave the appearance of influence so they'll do what ever it takes no matter how disengenous or laughable.
Rudy tied up the nomination? When did this happen?
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Which is amusing because Hillary and Obama are probably more religious than Guiliani or Thompson.
Very true. You have to remember the core of the Christian right is the deep south and they've spent the last half century demonizing the Democratic Party for daring to say blacks should have equal rights, that the Constitutional separation of church and state should be enforced, and that medical laws (like abortion) should be based on medical science instead of the Bible.
Those people are clearly ideologues who would never vote for a Democrat any more then they'd vote for an atheist or non-Christian candidate. Hell, I bet around half of them will refuse to vote simply because Giuliani is a Catholic. I mean just look at all the piss and venom they spewed in the 1960 election because Kennedy was an Irish Catholic.
Originally posted by DanS
Rudy tied up the nomination? When did this happen?
The moment the poll numbers and fund raise figures should Guiliani was in the lead. The money men in both parties immediately rally to heir apparent and try to under cut any other candidate. They've coughed up the cash to bribe the lead candidates and the last thing they want is to have to bribe yet another guy so they'll stick to the candidates they've already bought.
Very true. You have to remember the core of the Christian right is the deep south and they've spent the last half century demonizing the Democratic Party for daring to say blacks should have equal rights, that the Constitutional separation of church and state should be enforced, and that medical laws (like abortion) should be based on medical science instead of the Bible.
But abortion isn't based upon medical science (which would only allow abortion in the first 3 weeks), but rather is based upon women's rights.
If it was based upon medical science, I would switch from pro-life to pro-choice.
JM
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Originally posted by Oerdin
Very true. You have to remember the core of the Christian right is the deep south and they've spent the last half century demonizing the Democratic Party for daring to say blacks should have equal rights, that the Constitutional separation of church and state should be enforced, and that medical laws (like abortion) should be based on medical science instead of the Bible.
1. Pat yourself on the back some more, why don't you? I think you missed a spot.
2. The deep south, and the midwest, and parts of the southwest...pretty much everywhere except the NE and the west coast has an appreciable bible-thumper presence. But yes, I'm quite certain the average devout American churchgoer has a deep-down urge to whip a black guy. Conservatives today feel exactly the same as conservatives from fifty years ago, which is why you hear so much talk about Communism.
3. The bible doesn't mention abortion, and there's nothing medical about the justification for a pro-choice or pro-life stance. Both sides perceive it as a question of rights, only they disagree on whose trumps whose/what's.
1) The bible absolutely does mention abortion and it says that the penalty for murder is stoning to death while abortionists simply have to pay a fine. That in and of itself disproves the claims fundimentalist's claims that the bible says life begins at conception.
2) The origins of the modern conservative movement absolutely 100% began as a reaction to the civil rights movement. That's why it began in the south and that's why it was originally made up of southern bigots along with sympathizers and traditionalists. It has grown and diversified over the last 50 years but its origins were segregationists upset that evil liberals forced them to accept blacks as equals.
You should learn more about where your ideology comes from.
No, that's the punishment for causing a miscarriage, not abortion. And you said the "core" of the Christian right was the deep south, not its point of origin. You didn't say anything about the "modern conservative movement," either; it and the Xian right are distinct things, assuming there even is a monolithic conservative movement at this point in time. Maybe there once was, but not anymore.
And I am a Christian (though again, not a fundie), but most definitely not a conservative.
Originally posted by Oerdin
1) The bible absolutely does mention ...
Well show it.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,
Exodus 21:22-23
While it appears Elok's correct about it referring to miscarriage only, one could infer that it doesn't treat the unborn with full sanctity of human life. On the other hand there's this:
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; Jeremiah 1:5
Last edited by Darius871; November 8, 2007, 21:35.
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