Pat Robertson Endorses Rudy

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
It's because the fundies' public presentation of themselves is as a group that is ideologically inflexible/uncompromising. MoveOn will end up in the same position when they finally endorse Hillary.

As you note wrt MoveOn, in modern U.S. politics there's no such thing as a group that is ideologically inflexible/uncompromising. The fundies' representations were merely fortuitous as Bush was a one-time answer to their prayers that won't be repeated for quite some time. Now they see the writing on the wall and duly bend over.

[Dr Strangelove]

Besides, Romney was pro-choice, pro-gay rights until a few months ago, and most people know it. As robertson looked the two of them over he had to consider whether he though Romney's "conversion" was the real thing or not.

[-Jrabbit]

Originally posted by Darius871
Why is it such a given that the christian right is somehow immune from a simple lesser-evil mentality?

It's much more about rubbing their noses in their sanctimony now that it's clearly about self-interest rather than any actual moral high ground.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Barnabas
How will christians who prefer republicans over dems due to these ethical issues, justify voting for Rudy?

Teh 666 tattoo that think Hillary has.

[-Jrabbit]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Besides, Romney was pro-choice, pro-gay rights until a few months ago, and most people know it. As robertson looked the two of them over he had to consider whether he though Romney's "conversion" was the real thing or not.

So those two were his only choices?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by -Jrabbit
So those two were his only choices?

Yeah pay no attention to that former minister over there!

[Berzerker]

Funny, Robertson blamed abortion and gays for 9/11 and now he's endorsing the Mayor of the city where God's wrath struck us?

Hey Abraham! Are you gonna vote for the Mayor of Sodom?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Wycoff

The feel the same way about the Catholic Church, though, and believe that the Pope will be the Anti-Christ's right hand man. I wasn't sure which they hated more.

In general I would say that is true though if pushed and prodded they will grudgingly admit that Catholics are Christians abet with a page long disclaimer about how misguided and lost the poor papists are.

I have yet to meet any sort of fundimentalist Christian (Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodoxed) who will admit that Mormons are Christians. I have to say they do have a point too given how Mormons believe a new prophet came to supplement the teachings of Christ. Having studied a fair bit about the origins of Mormonism I can honestly say it really does sound like a nonsensical cult which clearly deviates enough from core Christian teachings so that it is a different religion/cult.

[Berzerker]

I have, the Church is the anti-Christ to some of these people

[Elok]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I have yet to meet any sort of fundimentalist Christian (Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodoxed)

Please do not call us fundamentalists. The label causes us to turn big and green and start smashing things. Fundamentalism is a Protestant phenomenon.

We do think Mormonism's creepy, though. We even have a little pamphlet about them and the JWs, entitled "Cultist at my Door."

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Oerdin
I have yet to meet any sort of fundimentalist Christian (Protestant, Catholic, or Orthodoxed) who will admit that Mormons are Christians. I have to say they do have a point too given how Mormons believe a new prophet came to supplement the teachings of Christ. Having studied a fair bit about the origins of Mormonism I can honestly say it really does sound like a nonsensical cult which clearly deviates enough from core Christian teachings so that it is a different religion/cult.

I actually agree with you (and the fundies) wrt Mormonism. I don't really consider it to be a Christian church.

I've known true fundies who don't consider Catholicism to be Christian.

[Slade Wilson]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Robertson is a political hack. He knows full well Rudy doesn't fall remotely in-line with the values of the Christian Right; there are much better candidates for that. I just hope fundie Christians finally wake up and realize they've been taken for a ride all these decades by the Republican party and have been brought right back to where they started.

Oh, and who are they going to vote for? The democratic candidate?

In reality, there are only two options for president:a republican nutjob or a democratic nutjob.

[Barnabas]

Originally posted by Slade Wilson


Oh, and who are they going to vote for? The democratic candidate?

In reality, there are only two options for president:a republican nutjob or a democratic nutjob.

Their option is to stop caring about morals when voting, since republicans and dems are the same regarding gay stuff+abortion, and to start voting based on economic issues, foreign policy etc

In a catholic forum I post in, you have many people who say stuff like, I am agaisnt the war in Iraq and the tax cuts of Bush, but I voted for him because he is agaisnt abortion.

Now, that kind of people, may vote for the dems

[DinoDoc]

I'm fairly certain that anyone part of the Christian Right uncomfortable with the Republicans will stay home before bringing themselves to vote for Hillary.

[Arrian]

In a catholic forum I post in, you have many people who say stuff like, I am agaisnt the war in Iraq and the tax cuts of Bush, but I voted for him because he is agaisnt abortion.

Now, that kind of people, may vote for the dems

Those kind of people are ****ing idiots. DD is correct, however, that they will not vote for Hillary. Probably not for any Dem.

-Arrian