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  • Originally posted by Aeson
    First of all, I'm talking in regards to the movie. (See later in this post.) While they mention something about "where there is one, there is two"... nothing further about the nature of the Sith is really explained.
    While true, at the end of Phantom Yoda and Mace discuss the whole master/apprentice thing. Also, this had been the way of the Sith for a 1,000 years, since Darth Bane instituted the Rule of Two.
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    • I made it very clear from the start that I was discussing how things appeared in the movie only. What "should have been" is obviously another topic, and only serves to undermine your support for the movie if you have to fall back on it to make your points.


      I only have to "fall back on it" because you fail to acknowledge the truth of the matter .

      It makes his character into a joke in the movie.


      Not at all. A few crazy moments doesn't diminish Palpatine at all for me. Hell, Star Wars has always been about cliches. It may, also, be seen as the corrupting force of the Dark Side, making the powerful adherants of it go more and more insane.
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      • Originally posted by Wiglaf
        I have not played Halo 3 and it is not a movie but I think I can make a good case for it being the worst sci fi trilogy film ending of the last few decades, at least.
        But... that game is all about your God-given right to bear arms and frag thine neighbor!
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        • Originally posted by Lorizael
          Actually, Maul's only purpose was to kill Qui-Gon, which he did. I really don't think Palpatine cared what happened to Maul after that, so he was probably already planning on another apprentice.

          So, what's the point of having only one apprentice? Why hang around waiting for one to half-complete a mission and die before recruiting another?

          He's living a double life, first the very demanding and public one of a senior Senator. He's also sneaking around under the noses of ubiquitous Jedi, finding time and resources to secretly train a freakazoid he intends to burn with one mission (unless the freak gets really lucky).

          Then he finds a disillusioned Jedi who has quit the order, somehow attained noble rank (if there's no Emperor, who's handing out titles?), and immediately trusts him enough to send him on the most delicate and secret part of the grand plan?

          And then the whole plan hinges on finding the prophesied virgin-born super-Jedi and turning him to the dark side... but first he has to get his anti-Jedi killed (preferably by the super-Jedi he's trying to turn) because he can only have one appretice.

          Gah! Why, oh why, didn't Lucas hire a real writer?
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          • Well if you wanna go to the EU, Maul completed much more than 1 mission before Naboo. Also, Palpatine as much as admitted that he engineered Anakin's birth so teh prophecy was irrelevent to him.
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            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Not at all. A few crazy moments doesn't diminish Palpatine at all for me. Hell, Star Wars has always been about cliches. It may, also, be seen as the corrupting force of the Dark Side, making the powerful adherants of it go more and more insane.
              Which is why Darth Vader in ep 4-6 was... er... doing comical stuff?

              Even Palpy wasn't clownish in those movies.

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              • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                Well if you wanna go to the EU, Maul completed much more than 1 mission before Naboo. Also, Palpatine as much as admitted that he engineered Anakin's birth so teh prophecy was irrelevent to him.
                Yes. All that, influence the midichlorians to create life stuff.

                And the only having one apprentice thing is because the Sith realized long ago that having too many Sith led to too much infighting. They didn't have the harmony of the Jedi; they had lust for power instead.
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                • I see this has devolved into a star wars conversation. I just don't think the series is good enough to warrant "researching" it.

                  It's just a movie (actually 6 movies)

                  I lose all respect for Star wars after the holiday special. Is life day part of their canon?

                  say what you will about star trek, but they never had a holiday special.

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                  • What about the holodeck episodes?

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                    • I will never let Lucas live this down

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                      • unintentionally.

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                            • Yes, yes they were . Palpatine in ROTS was as badass as Vader in ESB.


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                              • Have you seen Vader's helmet? He's a dork. A ****ing dork.
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